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ganoncrotch said:
Trunkin said:

I know you're just giving an example, but... How would you even build a $4000 PC? Like, what would be in it? Whatever's in there, you'd probably need a 4k TV to really make use of it. Make sure its 120, too.

OT: I would say no. While there are some games on PC that could reasonably be considered "next-gen," *coughstarcitizencough* by the large PC games(running on $500-1000 systems) are just marginally prettier than console games, with much higher frame rates. It's better, but not "next gen" better, IMO.

https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/micro-oled/cat-monitors/

Just go for true black and get an OLED monitor, considering how beautiful it makes some of the vita games look I'd consider it if they came down a bit... maybe dropped a single digit from the price.


Good Lord. That's a lot to pay for such a small screen. The image quality is probably outstanding, though. It's like my dream display. Too bad they're all waaay out of my price range.



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Yes IMO. I switched once I started seeing the games my friend was running his PC. Dying light looked amazing compared to my PS4 version. Even when my GF saw it she couldn't believe how real it looked. Hell Crysis 3 looks damn near real when you max it out and put the resolution all the way up.



PC Multi-plats have the ability to be far more next-gen than the current consoles, sure. But, as always, it entirely relies upon developers optimizing for PC hardware, which is in no way a certainty. And for the folks bringing up the cost strawman, it's irrelevant to the question at hand. The hardware is the question, not the cost. The current hardware out there annihilates the current consoles out there, but that's to be expected. Hardware improvements happen at a very fast pace, and the consoles started in a position of weakness (lower end CPU's).

So yeah, as long as the game is optimized for higher-end PC setups, absolutely. It just requires dev teams interested in doing so.



Honestly? Yes. Its like PS3 vs 9800GT all over again. Performance and visuals are usually so much better on PC, assuming the port isn't complete crap. The Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 come to mind, heck even older games like Battlefield 4 and DA: Inquisition.



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

Conina said:
Intrinsic said:

As far as current gen consoles go, the majority if those happen to be a ps4. And as for PCs? 25-30M. sounds comparable to the PS4 no doubt. But if you want to put that number into perspective, that's 25-30M of how many million PCs?

 

So why counting only current gen consoles instead of all active consoles? Cherrypicking?

did you read the OP?

He's comparing current gen consoles to PCs in relation to a generational leap by the metrics that current gen consoles are compared to previous gen consoles.

This is NOT a consoles vs PC discussion.



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"Next Gen" would mean a PS1 to PS2 like leap. So no.



Trunkin said:
ganoncrotch said:

https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/micro-oled/cat-monitors/

Just go for true black and get an OLED monitor, considering how beautiful it makes some of the vita games look I'd consider it if they came down a bit... maybe dropped a single digit from the price.


Good Lord. That's a lot to pay for such a small screen. The image quality is probably outstanding, though. It's like my dream display. Too bad they're all waaay out of my price range.

https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/micro-oled/cat-monitors/product-PVMA170/

That one is cheap enough! for a 17" 1080p screen, but yeah like I said on the Vita when something is black in a horror game, it's actually black like OLED tech has the ability to completely power off some of the pixels in an area of the screen to produce pure black.

Would indeed be amazing to have as your PC monitor set up but for now I'm just happy to have that tech in a handheld, like I said for some games like horror elements it's really amazing playing on the Vita in the dark at night time... playing limbo you walk into a black area... and it isn't grey it's just black. It's so weird to be going on about something so simple that was perfectly doable on CRT screens, just we've grown so used to seeing lit up grey as black now for years of lcd.



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Maybe a gen gap if you happen to have one of the top 100 home PC's and use mods.
For 99.99%, no, not even close to a gen gap.



Intrinsic said:
No.

When people say PCs they seem to forget that majority of the PCs out there can't even run games at the current settings of a PS4. And they make it sound like its the norm for majority of PCs to have GPUs that cist more than a PS4 alone.

If you look at true current gen games and not cross gen games; you will clearly see all the little things that make up a generational leap. Especially when both games are running on a 1080p TV. Bow take a $4000 PC. and run whatever game u want at 1080p and 200fps. You will NOT see as big a difference between it and a PS4 running the same game on a 1080p TV. At least not one that justifies the difference in cost.

IMO, if you really want to compare a pc with a console. Then always compare what kinda PC you can get for the cost of whatever console its being compared to. Right now you can get a PS4 for $350 and in some places $300.So let's talk about $300 PCs. Cause that's how anyone would look at it that has $300 to spend on a gaming platform.


This.

Sure I can compare the processing power of my Wii U to my gaming PC and obviously it comes up short but my PC was 5 times the price.

You can compare an Aston Martin to a Mazda in the same way but what PC fans must understand is that while their PC might outperform a PS4 the majority of PC's out there do not.

But back on OP, in general terms if you want to see what the next generation of consoles will be like have a look at what top end PC's are doing today and that is about right.



Abun said:
Ruler said:
No not at all. Its actually the other way around imo, the PS4 exclsuives look the most next gen to me. Games like Bloodborne, driveclub, knack, Second Son, the order 1886, Killzone look like a generation above in comperaison to the multiplat on all systems when it comes to pure visuals


Exactly and looking at next year,U4,R&C and Horizon look light years ahead of everything.No multiplat game comes close even on PC.

And if you want to use exclusives as your goal post (which both of you are anyway) then Star citizen would like to say hi along with Ashes of a Singularity and recent upcoming multiplat Kingdom Come deliverance.

PS4 isn't lightyears ahead of everything and frankly never will be due to the hardware that's now outdated that it;s had in it since pre 2013, that's an actual fact because there is already newer hardware that's come out in the two years since then that is ahead of thw PS4 and believe it or not technlogical advances happen every month to year that current gen systems just aren't going to have, nothing from the console point is going to surpass technological advances, if you want to move the goal posts you'd be a fool to go against technoligcal advanement in general and moores law.



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