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d21lewis said:
It will have bigger bosses, larger boobs, it will have a special headset that lets us taste the graphics...

HOW THE HECK AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW!?!

My exact thoughts when people post in my other thread that Zelda U will be more ambitious than Xenoblade X. How do they know?



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It will have grass and a green capped female.



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twintail said:
bigtakilla said:

Ummm, no. It still isn't opinion that Xenoblade Chronicles X is giving us that. It's a fact. It would be an opinion (and really, it would be more of a guess and not an opinion) if I said Zelda U isn't going to have that, or not to the scale of Xenoblade X. As I have used it though, it is not an opinion.


Its an opinion that you think Zelda U will be a less ambitious game when you have 0 info to prove this is the case.

Just because XBX is as you describe does not mean that it is more ambitious when you no next to nothing about the game you are comparing it to.

 

spemanig said:
twintail said:
Have better gameplay mechanics.


Well he didn't say better, he said more ambitious.

better gameplay mechanics strikes me as pretty ambitious itself.

Which is why I put more than likely in my other thread, and don't even say anything about which game is more ambitious in this thread. I just ask how Zelda U will be more ambitious.



vivster said:
It will have grass and a green capped female.


So will Xenoblade X (if you decide to put a green cap on one of the females), Lol.



bigtakilla said:
vivster said:
It will have grass and a green capped female.


So will Xenoblade X (if you decide to put a green cap on one of the females), Lol.

Sure those aren't censored? I don't want a female with a black bar on her head.



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vivster said:
bigtakilla said:


So will Xenoblade X (if you decide to put a green cap on one of the females), Lol.

Sure those aren't censored? I don't want a female with a black bar on her head.


Just on Lyn, she's to young to wear a green hat.



bigtakilla said:
Gamemaster87 said:
Do we know that Zelda Wii U doesn't have:
-Full voice acting
-very few loading screens
-Online Multiplayer
-Fully accessible massive world (remember Aonuma's words: as big as Kyoto?)
-Armor and weapon crafting?

We have seen the game last time almost a year ago! Things can change.
Plus Zelda Wii U has been development for a around 2 more years.

I think Zelda Wii U could be far more ambitious. That game is in development for 5 years now.

Would they have them on the scale of Xenoblade Chronicles? Besides the world possibly being bigger, I highly doubt it.


I don't think Zelda's world needs to be as big as Xenoblade's to be more ambitious. To go by your rubric, and I do agree with your rubric, Zelda U will very likely have much tighter level design than XCX has. A crafted experience is frankly much more intricate and time consuming than what the XC games do, which is to make large maps made of recycled recources and then just drop enemies into it. That's not a criticism, of course. As a JRPG, XCX doesn't really need the kind of level design tightness that an action adventure game like Zelda needs. Having that on a grand scale is something I've never scene in any open world game, including XCX, so that would be extremely ambitious. For my money, far more ambitious than XCX.

That's considering that Zelda actually has VA, though. I can only hope. I'm 100% sure that if Zelda had VA, it would far surpass the VA done in XCX and XC purely because of production value difference. You can see it in the difference between the VA in XC and the VA in Kid Icarus. Equal talent and equal script quality, but KI destroys the production values of XC.

I don't see Zelda U having any loading screens at all. The franchise rarely ever does. Online play is already confirmed since Jan 2014, though to what extent is unknown. Probably not to the extent of XCX. Crafting of weapons is already a thing in Zelda. It'll probably be in Zelda U as well. All in all, I see Zelda U as at least matching XCX in ambition. It's definitely the more ambitious Zelda game to date at least.



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spemanig said:
bigtakilla said:

Would they have them on the scale of Xenoblade Chronicles? Besides the world possibly being bigger, I highly doubt it.


I don't think Zelda's world needs to be as big as Xenoblade's to be more ambitious. To go by your rubric, and I do agree with your rubric, Zelda U will very likely have much tighter level design than XCX has. A crafted experience is frankly much more intricate and time consuming than what the XC games do, which is to make large maps made of recycled recources and then just drop enemies into it. That's not a criticism, of course. As a JRPG, XCX doesn't really need the kind of level design tightness that an action adventure game like Zelda needs. Having that on a grand scale is something I've never scene in any open world game, including XCX, so that would be extremely ambitious. For my money, far more ambitious than XCX.

That's considering that Zelda actually has VA, though. I can only hope. I'm 100% sure that if Zelda had VA, it would far surpass the VA done in XCX and XC purely because of production value difference. You can see it in the difference between the VA in XC and the VA in Kid Icarus. Equal talent and equal script quality, but KI destroys the production values of XC.

I don't see Zelda U having any loading screens at all. The franchise rarely ever does. Online play is already confirmed since Jan 2014, though to what extent is unknown. Probably not to the extent of XCX. Crafting of weapons is already a thing in Zelda. It'll probably be in Zelda U as well. All in all, I see Zelda U as at least matching XCX in ambition. It's definitely the more ambitious Zelda game to date at least.

I can agree to some extent as well. Zelda will have a development group far larger and money far exceeding what Xenoblade X has. That said, Zelda worlds have also been known to be quite barren. Take Windwaker, Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword, ect. It isn't going to seem very ambitious if the world doesn't really feel alive. Seeing that video with the group of horses running in it though gives me hope. That said, how many different species of people are their going to be? There are tons of aliens which are new and intricately weaved into the world of Mira. That also takes quite a bit of ambition. More so than just churning out some more Gerudo, Hylians, ect. It's taking pre existing ideas and putting a new coat of paint on it. The world itself and the inhabitants in it make me believe Xenoblade X is more ambitious. Though at this point we are both only guessing.

Also, while online has been confirmed, in what aspect has not. Gameplay? Messages in bottles to share pics and tips like Windwaker? We don't know. 

Last, as you have said yourself, crafting may be something they do in Zelda U, I think we can safely assume (though it is still just assuming though) that there won't be as many weapons or armor as Xenoblade X.



I dont know because we havent heard anything about the game for like a year uhh!