Really? Agreesive? No way Zhuge, you misunderstood my reply to you! :P

I'm seeking for your precious opinion, no matter if I will agree/disagree! :P

My apologies then.

It was the overuse of exclamation marks that threw me a bit.

As I was saying the 82m number and CESA's number aren't reported by Sony in their financial data so we can only take them as they are, which are non official estimates. I'm not saying they're not close to the actual number, just that we don't know the actual number.

In regards to VGC they are again just estimating based on this data. If you've read my posts on this forum in the past then you know that I'm not a fan of how VGC post their data with such authority yet their numbers are usually unreliable and in a lot of cases they are just plain wrong. So I'm not too bothered about what VGC say as they don't actually produce trustworthy data.

Since I'm not mispelling, not using words in the wrong way, don't make grammatical errors, or at least don't make tragic ones, I'm  puting paragraphs, lines, spaces and using punctuation, then I'm not in desperation for remedial English, is kind of insultive to propose me that, especially, when it comes from a non native english speaker, you must be too  much self-confident do to that with heavy hand and the poise of an english teacher, do you consider yourself to be the ultimate enlgish speaker?   

I don't need people's (more) approval, not that it would be bad to have it, but I won't fret if I don't reap the benefits of that, I want myself to feel good first and foremost...

 Of course don't take all these as an offense, I'm simply expressing my umbrage for that thing, I have been criticized from a tiny proprotion of readers, but in a very severe way, like I'm being a criminal...

My level isn't the best but implying that is so low for needing remedial english, it's somewhat misguided/unjust.

As someone else said, the problem is not my writing quality, but that I'm too meticulous and talking circuitously, instead of getting directly to core-subject... However, this is me!

Also, as I said, I recongnize that the op is inconherent and intricate but it's not in the slightest icomprehensible (well in my opinion, I might be defining the imcomprehensible differently than other people), words are right!

Writer must be making the op to have a good style, sometimes he can fail, I failed, I admitted many times, in that case the reader has an obligation too, to use his mind, he must work too... I say that with good-will and I'm taking the blame!

Yeah, psv has sold 446k in France by the end of 2014 and 600k as of June 2015 in spain, so it has truly sold more in spain than in france despite the market size difference, but that fact wasn't meaning that it was undertracked in other european countries... Vgc has it at 468k at france by that time interval, good tracking! 

http://www.latribune.fr/technos-medias/20150210trib562875d47/jeux-video-retour-a-la-croissance-pour-un-marche-francais-tire-par-les-consoles.html  

Now to the estimated 9.76m figure of shipments by the end of 2015! Sony had shipped 450k psp+psv in FY14 Q4, which  implies that psv is at 10.2m and less by that time (that quarter was psp's end of life quarter, so  we can pretty easily assume that the majority of the figure represents psv shipments,probably around 400k! Psv  must be at 10.16m-10.2 by that time, not 10.5m as I had extrapolated on a previous thread based on the psp 82m...

 Which is finally being proved to be really a rounded number as the source was pointing out, to wit 82m->82.3m.

Also another sources put its global sales from it's launch till January 2013 at 4m vs 4.4m of vgc!

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/jan/04/playstation-2-manufacture-ends-years It's overtracked by 400k since 2013!

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41301/Global/  

Ioi had psv at 10.3m as of March 31th, while the shipments were at 10.16m (before adjusting up by 1.3m ->11.6m, from which,  the most went in europe), ergo he was moderately overtracking it! Apparently, it's the surplus of 400k which comes from 2013.  

The tracking was decent, the adjustment up ruined it though! Usually vgc errors aren't huge, and there are succesful/perfect or aprroximate numbers, but this kind of error can't be ignored! Mostly, the issue is the adjustment back in April...

In consequence, psv was likely at 9.9m units sold by March 31th  with 300k units on the shelves, reasonable, for it's selling rate...

You really don't grasp what this says?

That's the topic, the last lines, the things upper, are from a previous thread about the 82m psp figure which seems, that the journalist elicited from the sony executive! In that thread, I was recounting the story of the huge adjustment up back in April and I didn't have the time to correct it !

I couldn't omit it  in this thread, there is connenction between the new evidence and the old one, plus not all people remember that/when/why psv was adjusted hugely up back in April!

And we strain at a gnat and swallow the camel with my english skills, very few people minded that thing, stop the recyclying of that issue, my crucifcation so far is enough...

Yeah, you have been very judicial with vgc...

Numbers here being unreliable is expected, since they're plain estimates but they're not terrible, there are fairly many perfect/close to the actuall tracking cases, that you might be ignoring... :P

For instance when ps4 reached 1m in the UK, vgc had it too  at 1m and when it reached 2m in the UK, vgc was off about 50k-70k? That's not bad in my opinion...

Of course there are big errors, like the one that this thread is related to (which is due to a misapprehension, which led in a misguided huge upwards adjustment, otherwise the mistake wouldn't be so big), but they're not in majority and they get fixed sometime! :P

Of course, I can't dictate what it will be discussed here (although in an answer in a similar comment, I said to keep that topic it out of my thread like I'm the head, but the post was a taunting allusion about my console preferences, so I replied abruptly and what I said, it was in the heat of the moment), then do it freely  my friends...:P

Okay, that topic is eniticing, I got lured! :P Anyway, you cut this ^ out from the quote Kresnik...

Wasn't really relevant to the point I was making where one second you're saying the thread isn't about this and the next you're talking about exactly that.

Not important anyway.  Just be consistent!

Of course, I can't dictate what it will be discussed here (although in an answer in a similar comment, I said to keep that topic it out of my thread like I'm the head, but the post was a taunting allusion about my console preferences, so I replied abruptly and what I said, it was in the heat of the moment), then do it freely  my friends...:P

It is  relavant kresnik ^, since it staves off my exposure.  And you keep cutting it out! :P

I said that I'm not a mod to impose what it would be discussed or not, so I proposed that you/we can talk about that topic freely...       Then I got involved in that topic, because I puzzled and asked for your opinion.  

That's doesn't make me inconsistent or negates me (look again the bolded), I just revised, seeing that this case is very interesting for some people! So why repressing you, while guys you're not doing any inappropiate thing :P

Anyway, I hope ioi's verdict to be seen, shortly.

Good afternoon Krezzie, have some fun playing on your lovable home or handheld console.

Let's leave this thead to die... We have exhausted it! :P