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Madword on 08 November 2015
Insidb said:
Madword said:

I think people are actually talking about a *game* failure rather than XBO failure... you are the first to actually make that link.

It's been a general discussion for a while - how much would releasing TR on a single platform (the one that it sold less on previously) would hurt it. It's a valid conversation.

Most people here have also been very open about the absurd launch window: Tomb Raider is a big franchise, but it is going up against juggernauts. Regardless of system, it's up against Halo 5, Star Wars, Black Ops, Fallout, etc. It's the very same reason people have been calling the UC4 delay a potential blessing in disguise.

Yeah exactly... I have been one of those people since the FO4 release date was announced, and am still very shocked they havent delayed the game. In all honesty I thought they would have moved it to December.... even crazier that MS had the marketing to both FO AND TR and they release the same week, stupiest business decision I've seen in a while.



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dovus on 08 November 2015
Madword said:
Insidb said:

Most people here have also been very open about the absurd launch window: Tomb Raider is a big franchise, but it is going up against juggernauts. Regardless of system, it's up against Halo 5, Star Wars, Black Ops, Fallout, etc. It's the very same reason people have been calling the UC4 delay a potential blessing in disguise.

Yeah exactly... I have been one of those people since the FO4 release date was announced, and am still very shocked they havent delayed the game. In all honesty I thought they would have moved it to December.... even crazier that MS had the marketing to both FO AND TR and they release the same week, stupiest business decision I've seen in a while.

I thought they had a plan to make a TR+F4 bundle for 349$., but now we all see that it was just another marketing failure of MS. 



binary solo on 08 November 2015
Insidb said:
Madword said:

I think people are actually talking about a *game* failure rather than XBO failure... you are the first to actually make that link.

It's been a general discussion for a while - how much would releasing TR on a single platform (the one that it sold less on previously) would hurt it. It's a valid conversation.

Most people here have also been very open about the absurd launch window: Tomb Raider is a big franchise, but it is going up against juggernauts. Regardless of system, it's up against Halo 5, Star Wars, Black Ops, Fallout, etc. It's the very same reason people have been calling the UC4 delay a potential blessing in disguise.

There is no disguise about it

 

Not sure why anyone would be concerned about the position of the NDC bundle the 3rd party bundles are selling brilliantly and the NDC bundle should rightfully be at the back of the pack. The time to worry would be if NDC was the top bundle and only in the 30s.

 





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Insidb on 08 November 2015
binary solo said:
Insidb said:

Most people here have also been very open about the absurd launch window: Tomb Raider is a big franchise, but it is going up against juggernauts. Regardless of system, it's up against Halo 5, Star Wars, Black Ops, Fallout, etc. It's the very same reason people have been calling the UC4 delay a potential blessing in disguise.

There is no disguise about it

 

Not sure why anyone would be concerned about the position of the NDC bundle the 3rd party bundles are selling brilliantly and the NDC bundle should rightfully be at the back of the pack. The time to worry would be if NDC was the top bundle and only in the 30s.

 

Agreed, I'm not sure why anyone would be less than impressed that a PS4 bundle of remasters is killing it right now. This is going up against the very same holiday lineup that appears to be hindering both Halo 5 AND Tomb Raider. 



binary solo on 08 November 2015

I don't understand why MS hasn't released a $350 Halo bundle yet. Are they just waiting for fall out 4 to launch? There has to be a cheap Halo bundle for late November and December, surely.



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jason1637 on 08 November 2015
binary solo said:
I don't understand why MS hasn't released a $350 Halo bundle yet. Are they just waiting for fall out 4 to launch? There has to be a cheap Halo bundle for late November and December, surely.


Maybe $350 halo bundle with mcc an dhalo 5 for blakc friday. If this happens i expect the annoucement between nov 18-20



2008ProchargedGT on 08 November 2015
binary solo said:
I don't understand why MS hasn't released a $350 Halo bundle yet. Are they just waiting for fall out 4 to launch? There has to be a cheap Halo bundle for late November and December, surely.

Yeah but it will be too late. Halo is losing its buzz due to COD now and BF in the coming week.



jason1637 on 08 November 2015
2008ProchargedGT said:
binary solo said:
I don't understand why MS hasn't released a $350 Halo bundle yet. Are they just waiting for fall out 4 to launch? There has to be a cheap Halo bundle for late November and December, surely.

Yeah but it will be too late. Halo is losing its buzz due to COD now and BF in the coming week.


Not really. It will push hw for those who want an x1 while if they dont want an x1 they could just get a ps4 or wii u.



2008ProchargedGT on 08 November 2015
jason1637 said:
2008ProchargedGT said:

Yeah but it will be too late. Halo is losing its buzz due to COD now and BF in the coming week.


Not really. It will push hw for those who want an x1 while if they dont want an x1 they could just get a ps4 or wii u.


This time a year isnt really about what the gamer wants tho, most (compleatly pulled out of my ass) console sales this time of year are gifts. When a clueless shopper enters a store and sees huge COD and BF signs i doubt the face Halo would be included would effects sales in any relevant way, just my .02



jason1637 on 08 November 2015
2008ProchargedGT said:
jason1637 said:


Not really. It will push hw for those who want an x1 while if they dont want an x1 they could just get a ps4 or wii u.


This time a year isnt really about what the gamer wants tho, most (compleatly pulled out of my ass) console sales this time of year are gifts. When a clueless shopper enters a store and sees huge COD and BF signs i doubt the face Halo would be included would effects sales in any relevant way, just my .02


You have a point but they can also include mcc an dhalo 5 and promote it as 5 games for the price of $350