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Cloudman on 26 October 2015
twintail said:
Cloudman said:

I feel like a broken record in saying this, but the team came to Ninten first with the idea, 4 and 5 because of the potential he saw in the Wii and Wii U. It was also a joint work between Tecmo and Ninten. Ninten also published them. That's why.


For argument's sake, even if Tecmo were the one's who approached Nintendo, Nintendo are still the ones own own the publishing rights for the games. They, therefore, are the ones who make the real financal decisions for the game.

Whether Nintendo sought out the IP or not, does not change their responsibility in how the game is marketted etc.

Though it is also Tecmo's fault for going to Nintendo to let them co-publish the IP going forward.

 

I do agree with the OP as far as Tecmo should have probably kept the IP to themselves. They do publish a lot of niche games in the West, even on niche platforms like the Vita, quite frequently. 

I do agree that Ninten should have marketed better. They really had something great in 4. It should be brought over to the now at least on VC. Packaged with FFrame 5 would be even better. At least they brought over 5. You can't really fault them for that. ; )

It may have been good if Tecmo kept it themselves, though what the games would have been like if they weren't made with Nintendo, who knows how that could have been.



 

              

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Majin-Tenshinhan on 26 October 2015
Goodnightmoon said:
OH! I cannot dress the main character as a dirty slut! You evil Nintendo.

I don´t see people complaining for the amount of Vita games that are digital only. "Oh but those are japanese niche games" Yes, and fatal Frame is the exact definition of a niche japanese game that was not able to break 300k in the freaking ps2. If wasn´t for Nintendo the franchise would be probably dead.


ITT: Any girl that has ever gone to the beach is a dirty slut.



KyleeStrutt on 26 October 2015

Man, this thread had me rolling.

GG guys, I needed a laugh.



foxtail on 27 October 2015
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Goodnightmoon said:
OH! I cannot dress the main character as a dirty slut! You evil Nintendo.

I don´t see people complaining for the amount of Vita games that are digital only. "Oh but those are japanese niche games" Yes, and fatal Frame is the exact definition of a niche japanese game that was not able to break 300k in the freaking ps2. If wasn´t for Nintendo the franchise would be probably dead.


ITT: Any girl that has ever gone to the beach is a dirty slut.

But I'd also say the games setting isn't exactly a day at the beach.  

I think one reason they took out the costumes is that they didn't want it to become the sole focus for players interested in the game with what would be many peoples first experience with the franchise.



Ruler on 27 October 2015
Goodnightmoon said:
OH! I cannot dress the main character as a dirty slut! You evil Nintendo.

I don´t see people complaining for the amount of Vita games that are digital only. "Oh but those are japanese niche games" Yes, and fatal Frame is the exact definition of a niche japanese game that was not able to break 300k in the freaking ps2. If wasn´t for Nintendo the franchise would be probably dead.


Define Niche? the graphics of this game alone are bettter than in Splatoon for example thats why KoeiTecmo went to Nintendo at the time because these type of games need a larger budget. Nintendo is the one who makes this franchise niche how they are releasing and marketing the game.

Look at Nintendos Wii U games like Kirby rainbow brush, physical releases and plenty of copies avaible in all regions, big marketing and no delays in the regions. If they have money for these types of games why not for Fatal Frame 5?

These niche Vita games arent published by Sony thats the difference. And yes Koei-Tecmo publishes alot of their games in physical form for the Vita like toeikeden, deception and so on and almost everything on the PS4. Without Nintendo this franchise would have been still a live as well and it would be marketed properly, this is a fact if you look at Koei-Tecmos recent history.

And since when are Women in lingeree outfits dirty sluts? I wouldnt be suprised if they censore XCX as well, they allready changed the age of a main character having a sexy costume, and they didnt changed it to 18.



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Nuvendil on 27 October 2015
Ruler said:
Goodnightmoon said:
OH! I cannot dress the main character as a dirty slut! You evil Nintendo.

I don´t see people complaining for the amount of Vita games that are digital only. "Oh but those are japanese niche games" Yes, and fatal Frame is the exact definition of a niche japanese game that was not able to break 300k in the freaking ps2. If wasn´t for Nintendo the franchise would be probably dead.


Define Niche? the graphics of this game alone are bettter than in Splatoon for example thats why KoeiTecmo went to Nintendo at the time because these type of games need a larger budget. Nintendo is the one who makes this franchise niche how they are releasing and marketing the game.

Look at Nintendos Wii U games like Kirby rainbow brush, physical releases and plenty of copies avaible in all regions, big marketing and no delays in the regions. If they have money for these types of games why not for Fatal Frame 5?

These niche Vita games arent published by Sony thats the difference. And yes Koei-Tecmo publishes alot of their games in physical form for the Vita like toeikeden, deception and so on and almost everything on the PS4. Without Nintendo this franchise would have been still a live as well and it would be marketed properly, this is a fact if you look at Koei-Tecmos recent history.

And since when are Women in lingeree outfits dirty sluts? I wouldnt be suprised if they censore XCX as well, they allready changed the age of a main character having a sexy costume, and they didnt changed it to 18.


Kirby games cost significantly less (leaving space for marketing) and have consistently sold fairly well.  That's why they advertised it and released physical.  Fatal Frame costs significantly more and has never been a successful franchise on any platform under any publisher.  The best selling didn't even cross 200k.  The whole franchise is under 750k grand spanking total.  It's niche, has always been niche.  Sales like that are the very definition of niche.  And it was like this before Nintendo ever got involved.  Frankly, it's a complete and total miracle the franchise still exists. And I'm getting kinda tired of the people making hay over this.  And this is from someone who thinks a physical release would have been a good idea, if only for the sake of principle and having an extra title on the shelf for the holidays.  Would have made zero dollars for Nintendo.  In fact, probably would have put the game further in the red.  But appearances and all that.