The thing is, how the hell did they even make 2k songs?

And is this their first time doing DLC in this method?

The first Rock Band was released in November 2007. They've been adding new tracks regularly even since that release, so we're talking about 8 years of DLC that happens to be compatible with Rock Band 4.

My palm may have just pushed itself through my face. I'm not entirely certain I can recover from this condition.

They didn't "make" 2,000 songs. They acquired the rights to the songs, created the instrument tracks for them on each difficulty, then put them up for sale at the modest cost of $2 per song. This DLC is accumulated from all the DLC released from their other games. They made all of the songs functional with Rock Band 4 so that people could also use their old DLC songs without having to buy them again. This is so consumer friendly in options and execution, it's almost absurd.

it sort of makes more sense in a music based game, considering the possibilities of massive libraries of playable songs but then again that does still spell off as a blatant cash grab... after all they've made so many of these little things available generally in ADVANCE to the game release yet decide to hold them back for a dollar here and a dollar there

I suppose its better to have DLC thats for little tiny toppings and not really things that ground breakingly effect a main game experience, but still its disheartening and sort of cheap in appearance for this to happen in such a shrewd quantity

in the end the consumers will speak though, if your average Joe isn't buying any extra songs or options in the DLC then eventually the companies will give up in their endeavors to squeeze all of this extra bits out of us

This is the main reason why I have stopped buying these games years ago (before they stopped making them). For their absurd asking price (a bunch of plastic electronics should not add $40+ to the price) they include a small amount of actual music versus what they try to sell you. And it's not as if it requires a lot of work to add this music in.

That's the main reason why I might eventually buy the new Guitar Hero. It has even less songs IIRC, but you get access to Guitar Hero TV or some shit where you can play hundreds of other songs kind of like a GH version of Spotify.

The "plastic electronics" are priced as controllers. Which they are. That complaint legitimately makes no sense. Yeah, it's kind of inconvenient, but buying controllers is always a kind of spendy affair. But, you know, the folks at Harmonix knew this and made old Rock Band gear compatible with Rock Band 4. SO EVIL.

"And it's not as if it requires a lot of work to add this music in." And how do you know that? Do you put these tracks together yourself? Do you sit at a computer and make sure that the tracks are right for each instrument, each difficulty, and accurate as a whole for the individual song? Are you familiar with the tools the developers use to create these tracks? All aboard the assumption train I suppose when we just have to insist a developer is greedy.

And yes, Guitar Hero Live has less songs because it doesn't have basically a decade of DLC available for it. Let's celebrate the fact that you get to spend all over again with the new Guitar Hero, whereas those who invested in Rock Band instruments and DLC previously can get away with just buying the base game to enable it all on their new system. Oooohhhh, so evil, so greedy, so horrible. I just hate these consumer friendly options.

As an addition to this post, anybody who says "but I don't think 65 songs is enough" - they are trying to sell the game for $60. Do you understand the cost of music? How much dealing they likely had to do to pull off getting each song added to the base game, effectively selling each song for far below the $2 standard of a single DLC song?

God damn it guys. It is legitimately frustrating reading some of this. It goes beyond entitlement to some mindset that would wreck the industry as a whole if it became standard.

LMAO get over it! You only buy the songs you want!

I see nothing wrong it, although they could definitely add way more songs to the main campaign, maybe even a voucher that lets you get 15 free songs of your choosing or something. Also, I wish the songs were cheaper, between $.75 and $1.50 sounds good to me.

yeah your not suppose to buy it all just the tracks you like, alot of people here sound like those people that buy iphones and then act stupified that they also have to pay for apps.

Controllers are overpriced as well. The complaint makes perfect sense, thanks. You're welcome to disagree that they are overpriced, doesn't make either opinion any more or less valid. Hope that helps.

Here, friend, I fixed this reply for you with the bolded word. All they're doing is taking art someone else made and adding to it. The fact that they have thousands of songs available for download as DLC imported and updated for the couple of small new gameplay enhancements tells me it doesn't take much work for them to import them. You're again welcome to disagree, I'll side with logic.

Well Guitar Hero Live is quite different than past GH titles and the guitar has more buttons. It wouldn't make much sense to allow for BC with peripherals that simply wouldn't work. Maybe they could have ported in old music and just updated it easily like Harmonix did but they seem to be pushing Guitar Hero Live which I am fine with because it means hundreds of free songs at launch for users and much more to come later. Plus it represents actual innovation and change in the genre, where as Rock Band 4 is literally just another sequel.

I understand I can buy these songs for a dollar or less on my phone. Anything past that and you're just making the same assumptions you were complaining about earlier, talking about what "likely" happens here and what "likely" happens there.

Sorry you're frustrated about people having a pro-consumer mindset. For my part I am done wasting time talking about Rock Band.