So... If this is around the power of the other two, I feel launch is going to look so sad. 2-3 Nintendo titles, 1-3 3rd party titles made just for the NX, and 10+ ports that will sell poorly. Been there, done that.

Doesn't matter if it's 1/10 or 10x the power of the others, the launch lineup is going to be 2-3 1st party titles, 1-3 3rd party exclusives and 10+ ports. Honestly what console in the last 15 years from Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft wasn't that?

You're original post mentioned that your list would provide a consistent stream of new releases. I responded thinking that the "consistent stream" you talk about is laughable at best for third party games that span over 2 consoles.

If those are the TYPES of games that the NX has to rely on for third party, then the NX is in trouble. I'm not arguing that the list you gave was inferior to anything, I'm arguing that the NX needs a larger list with larger titles that are not limited to indie games or TV/movie to video game adaptations.

That list is literally missing an entire demographic (say age 13 and up), and it is also missing critical games for its target demographic (minecraft and rocket league)

I would use that list as an indicator that Nintendo needs to change something up or risk another wii u failure

I just looked up the PS4 launch games. I see a couple of ports... But 3rd party games are what dominated it. So I'd at least answer PS4 to your question. I;d quest Xbox One looked about the same. My point is, if you come in half way into a gen, all your going to get are ports at the start. Wii U had a bunch...

Ya, I looked at the PS4 launch lineup as well, it's primarily ports.......Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Battlefield, Skylanders, Just Dance, Injustice, Madden, FIFA, NBA 2K, Lego Marvel, Angry Birds.

I'll try to explain to you what he's saying. The point isn't to attract 3rd parties, the point is making it easier for Ninty to support. Ninty had done a pretty good job supporting the 3DS but it could obviously be better if they could shift the Wiius resources towards it as well. The healthy stream of games would come from Ninty alone. Any 3rd party support is just gravy, especially the Japanese 3rd party support Ninty receives. WiiU like failure is practically impossible with just Pokemon alone.

Yes, it's laughable for games that span 2 consoles, that's exactly what I'm getting at, if they were all on a single unified platform (NX) than it wouldn't look nearly as bad especially since 3rd party are, always have been and always will be supplementary titles on Nintendo platforms. The main draw for every Nintendo device EVER has been Nintendo-published software, that will never change.

There are a bunch of games on that list that aren't indie or based on kids movies/shows, Ace Combat, Monster Hunter, Story of Seasons, Etrian Mystery Dungeon, Attack on Titan, Devil Survivor, A-Train, Lord of Magna, Samurai Warriors, Senran Kagura, Skylanders, Just Dance, Guitar Hero, Legend of Legacy, Rodea, PopoloCrois, Stella Glow, and many of these games are aimed at or played by 13 years and up demographics.

Nintendo published software+Japanese 3rd parties+kid/family friendly titles+indie titles easily gives Nintendo 100+ titles per year, this can also potentially grow since Nintendo's indie support has gotten much stronger in the last few years and doesn't appear to be stopping, along with Sony essentially stating they aren't going to make a Vita successor meaning it's possible that the strong Japanese support it receives could move to NX.

That's all fine and dandy for Nintendo to make a console that makes it easier for Nintendo to put Nintendo games on Nintendo consoles. The problem is that there are less and less and less people that are willing to buy a Nintendo console for Nintendo games.

If Nintendo keeps serving their own, and not even bothering to try to have any type of appeal outside of diehard Nintendo fans that buy all of their stuff anywyas, they're doomed.

I think as soon as Sony and Microsoft revealed they were using x86, that the Wii U would be short lived.

I think there is one other thing that has been overlooked is that people are far more tech savvy now then they were 8 years ago. I think being connected to the Internet 24/7 through smart phones has been the major influence in that regard.

One last thing is I think Nintendo need change their way as to what games they make instead going for a PG everything approach (with their first party devs). They need to makes first party games from R 18+ to G rated in order to go after a broader audience, which I think will also result in better third party sales.

I just hope Nintendo understands that adults rarely buy/want products aimed at children for themselves, but inversely products aimed at adults often appeal just as much to children.