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ctk495 said:
ohmylanta1003 said:


Woah. You are not reading this situation properly at all. Your view of other people is disturbing and your view on what you think they're doing to you is clearly wrong. I would honestly see a professional about this if I was you.

No man, I just accept reality and understand the world works. You are afraid of people like me who aren't followers nor immersed in 'group think'. I actually go by the evidence. I have two close friends telling me what this international students are doing and how cliquey they are.  While, I never mention any of them nor try to harm their reputation.


This is exactly the response I expected. People like you think that they are the ones that are right and everyone else around them is in the wrong. That's scary and I fear for the people around you. The school shooter in Oregon a couple of weeks ago said the exact same thing.

"Other people think I'm crazy, but I'm not. I'm the sane one"

I'm not afraid of you because I don't know who you are, but you are right about one thing: if I did, I certainly would be.



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ctk495 said:
After, thinking through for a while, I have realized that the international students are the worst. They are using their influence to try and disseminate lies against me, simply because I didn't want to be their friends. The belong to a hierarchical clique full of corruption and abuse of power. It seems they can't live in a world where one is an individual but rather they MUST, form relationships with all the other international students.

Having worked after college in a job where I did most of the work alone. I got used to not seeing people and not grouping together or asking support from others. But I guess not everyone can be that free.

I don't know what kind of fucked up school you go to. But every one I have attended international students tended to leave you alone and ONLY associate themselves with people from their country / region. Main reason being because alot of them were far away from home and didn't know good english and wanted to feel like they never left home so found a common group off people to work with (i.e. replaced their family and friends network).  At no stage did any local student feel like there was a conspiracy to take you down, hell most international didn't even come to lectures because they didn't understand and had others tutor them lol. 

It went a little like this

Asian students (sometime broken down further by chinese and other)

Indian Students

African Students

Other smaller groups sorta gelled together. 

 

From these groups some who had better english and more confidence in themselves ventured out into other circles.


In anycase what is wrong with people wanting to be your friend? I wish more international students ehre tried to integrate and get along, but it was understandable as Aussies for some cultures are far too open minded. 

Also ironically they are the ones who studied the hardest and socialised less (because their fees were about 4x more than local students), so one could argue if you are all about the books these are the perfect kind of friends for you if they approached you.



 

 

ohmylanta1003 said:
ctk495 said:

No man, I just accept reality and understand the world works. You are afraid of people like me who aren't followers nor immersed in 'group think'. I actually go by the evidence. I have two close friends telling me what this international students are doing and how cliquey they are.  While, I never mention any of them nor try to harm their reputation.


This is exactly the response I expected. People like you think that they are the ones that are right and everyone else around them is in the wrong. That's scary and I fear for the people around you. The school shooter in Oregon a couple of weeks ago said the exact same thing.

"Other people think I'm crazy, but I'm not. I'm the sane one"

I'm not afraid of you because I don't know who you are, but you are right about one thing: if I did, I certainly would be.


Sorry OP but he's right. 

It's not a big deal. It might be medical, it might not be. But you just not social. At all. And very cynical. Nothing wrong with that. What's wrong is how you think that you're better than other people. You certainly are not better than me, and I'm usually the go to "talk of the party". 

I guarentee I have accomplished many times more than you in your life. And am very social with that. So it's cool to question people/society and all; but don't act pretentious as if you're above us "normal" folk.



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ohmylanta1003 said:
ctk495 said:

No man, I just accept reality and understand the world works. You are afraid of people like me who aren't followers nor immersed in 'group think'. I actually go by the evidence. I have two close friends telling me what this international students are doing and how cliquey they are.  While, I never mention any of them nor try to harm their reputation.


This is exactly the response I expected. People like you think that they are the ones that are right and everyone else around them is in the wrong. That's scary and I fear for the people around you. The school shooter in Oregon a couple of weeks ago said the exact same thing.

"Other people think I'm crazy, but I'm not. I'm the sane one"

I'm not afraid of you because I don't know who you are, but you are right about one thing: if I did, I certainly would be.

No man your mind is  completely deluded you can't think for youself.. It seems like you can't see that not everyone in the world is like you who simply goes by the mainstream narrative society imposes on you. And if I disagree with you suddently, I am a potential shooter. I am the enemy. You didn't even reply to my point as how I was going by the evidence. You just seem like a terrible human being trying to make me feel bad since I disagree with your beliefs. 



Cobretti2 said:
ctk495 said:
After, thinking through for a while, I have realized that the international students are the worst. They are using their influence to try and disseminate lies against me, simply because I didn't want to be their friends. The belong to a hierarchical clique full of corruption and abuse of power. It seems they can't live in a world where one is an individual but rather they MUST, form relationships with all the other international students.

Having worked after college in a job where I did most of the work alone. I got used to not seeing people and not grouping together or asking support from others. But I guess not everyone can be that free.

I don't know what kind of fucked up school you go to. But every one I have attended international students tended to leave you alone and ONLY associate themselves with people from their country / region. Main reason being because alot of them were far away from home and didn't know good english and wanted to feel like they never left home so found a common group off people to work with (i.e. replaced their family and friends network).  At no stage did any local student feel like there was a conspiracy to take you down, hell most international didn't even come to lectures because they didn't understand and had others tutor them lol. 

It went a little like this

Asian students (sometime broken down further by chinese and other)

Indian Students

African Students

Other smaller groups sorta gelled together. 

 

From these groups some who had better english and more confidence in themselves ventured out into other circles.


In anycase what is wrong with people wanting to be your friend? I wish more international students ehre tried to integrate and get along, but it was understandable as Aussies for some cultures are far too open minded. 

Also ironically they are the ones who studied the hardest and socialised less (because their fees were about 4x more than local students), so one could argue if you are all about the books these are the perfect kind of friends for you if they approached you.

I am an international student, this invalidates most of what you've said. I was actually bothered by how intrusive some of them are, as how they want to force me to be their friend and since I didn't want to they are saying I am not friendly. 



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How you going to get a job without social skills and communication skills and working with a team? How you going to negotiate a salary or network with people in your field to get to the position you want?

These are skills everyone needs unless you are a genius and get hired on your amazing skills alone that very few in the world can offer.



ps3-sales! said:
ohmylanta1003 said:


This is exactly the response I expected. People like you think that they are the ones that are right and everyone else around them is in the wrong. That's scary and I fear for the people around you. The school shooter in Oregon a couple of weeks ago said the exact same thing.

"Other people think I'm crazy, but I'm not. I'm the sane one"

I'm not afraid of you because I don't know who you are, but you are right about one thing: if I did, I certainly would be.


Sorry OP but he's right. 

It's not a big deal. It might be medical, it might not be. But you just not social. At all. And very cynical. Nothing wrong with that. What's wrong is how you think that you're better than other people. You certainly are not better than me, and I'm usually the go to "talk of the party". 

I guarentee I have accomplished many times more than you in your life. And am very social with that. So it's cool to question people/society and all; but don't act pretentious as if you're above us "normal" folk.

Where did I say I was better than other people? You are making assumptions on points I didn't make. I am trying to gear this more towards and educational policies reform, how education can follow different routes and be more about studying as opposed to socializing. Also it seems your are very insecure to be saying 'I guaranteed I have accomplished.." We are talking about education not if someone gave you a hi5. 



ctk495 said:
ohmylanta1003 said:


This is exactly the response I expected. People like you think that they are the ones that are right and everyone else around them is in the wrong. That's scary and I fear for the people around you. The school shooter in Oregon a couple of weeks ago said the exact same thing.

"Other people think I'm crazy, but I'm not. I'm the sane one"

I'm not afraid of you because I don't know who you are, but you are right about one thing: if I did, I certainly would be.

No man your mind is  completely deluded you can't think for youself.. It seems like you can't see that not everyone in the world is like you who simply goes by the mainstream narrative society imposes on you. And if I disagree with you suddently, I am a potential shooter. I am the enemy. You didn't even reply to my point as how I was going by the evidence. You just seem like a terrible human being trying to make me feel bad since I disagree with your beliefs. 


It is very evident to me and everyone else in this thread that you clearly have some issues that you need to work out. Just because I disagree with someone doesn't mean I view them as a threat. But based on everything you've said in this thread, you're a time bomb waiting to blow. And I'm not the terrible human being here. Have you seen the way you carry yourself? As other users have pointed out, you believe that you are MUCH better than everyone else. That's more terrible than anything I've said (and what the fuck are you talking about when you say evidence? I certainly don't see anything concrete). And don't you dare call me mainstream because I have the ability to talk to people.

Mods. I think this thread should be locked. I think you can see the reasons why.



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ctk495 said:
ps3-sales! said:


Sorry OP but he's right. 

It's not a big deal. It might be medical, it might not be. But you just not social. At all. And very cynical. Nothing wrong with that. What's wrong is how you think that you're better than other people. You certainly are not better than me, and I'm usually the go to "talk of the party". 

I guarentee I have accomplished many times more than you in your life. And am very social with that. So it's cool to question people/society and all; but don't act pretentious as if you're above us "normal" folk.

Where did I say I was better than other people? You are making assumptions on points I didn't make. I am trying to gear this more towards and educational policies reform, how education can follow different routes and be more about studying as opposed to socializing. Also it seems your are very insecure to be saying 'I guaranteed I have accomplished.." We are talking about education not if someone gave you a hi5. 

I'd have a far worse, lower paying job if I never socialized with people in college and worked with them on projects in class and outside of class.  You may not like it, but you need to learn how to do it and show your boss you can work with a team well.  



Yeah there surely need to be more places for the ones amongst us that do not mentally fit into the accepted social norm.Beginning to dislike a certain group of people because you dont fit in isnt really the right thing to do offcourse. :)