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contestgamer on 01 October 2015
VGPolyglot said:
This thread honestly made me very disappointed in the community here. I can't believe how racist xenophobic and Islamophobic people are here. Many of the Syrians are only fleeing their country because they have to to survive. Also, I know many Muslims where I live and life is fine here. Us treating them with hate and disgust is exactly what will make them become extreme; on the other hand, treating them with kindness and compassion will let them integrate more easily preventing extremism. Also, it is not the illegal immigrants that are at fault for our economic position, it is rich businessmen that refuse to give more than they have to, having billions of dollars in the bank that they will never use while many people are struggling to pay for food. Also we should view Syrians as citizens of the world, instead of thinking "oh we're not responsible for them!" We are in a world of increasing globalization so that train of thought makes no sense.


We are in a world made up of countries. Until you have your fantasy one world government, we're going to stay that way.



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contestgamer on 01 October 2015
SuperNova said:
contestgamer said:


They'll remain in the camps as long as they have to. Better than going back to Syria right? Countries are meant for their own people. As unfortunate as the refugee crisis is, it's not something that should be a concern to our countries. A countries concern should always be its own citizens - that's the point of living in a country.  Our western countries werent built in one day and without blood and sacrifice. These young male refugees instread of running should be fighting for their country. Sympathy shouldnt dictate policy, pure national interest should only.

 

Well in that case, Europe should call America and Australia, and take it's millions upon millions of refugees back. And those were of the extra filthy kind too, there wasn't even a war of anything going on in europe at the time, they were just poor and saw no other way but to go across the ocean in search of a better life. Filthy assholes should have just dealt with the cards life dealt them. But I guess it's fine if you steal a country from people that have less military denfense than you right?

By that logic no one should ever immigrate anywhere no matter the circumstances or how beneficial it might be for the country to have someone immigrate to them, because countries are for their own people.

Nevermind that Countries and borders are arbetrairy concepts that we decide upon, sometimes as recently as 25 years ago.

Also you completely disregarded my question why it Should be Turkeys/Jordans/Egypts concern but not ours.

And these young male refugees? They have no weapons or military training whatsoever, but yeah of course they should be running into their sure death instead of trying to save their families.

I'm sorry to say, you're not making sense.


Turkey, etc should house them because unfortunately we have global asylum laws that needed to be abided by and these people need to be dumped somewhere according to international law - they're the closest safe countries to the conflict believe it or not, NOT Germany thousands of miles away. Also, 70% of these refugees are young men - they're not fleeing with their "families". Immigration and migrating by ILLEGAL crossing the borders of multiple countries is a totally different thing. Following the rule of law and procedures in place for legal immigration is fine by me - crossing borders illegally is unacceptable and they should be jailed by the countries they trespass in to.

 

And so what if countries are arbitrary? everything is - so are global asylum laws we made up, so is our sense of morality which makes you think we should do more for these people. That said nations do exist - we dont live in a one world state. There sure as hell isn't any dispute that Europe and the US are not Syria or the middle east.



Dr.Henry_Killinger on 01 October 2015
Mendicate Bias said:
Lawlight said:

No, they won't.

He's right on this matter. Muslims cannot integrate in a democratic, secular country. The majority of them think that Sharia law is above the constitution.

That's why Muslims born in America have on average higher education and income levels compared to white Americans. Or why the only ethnic minority to own a NFL team, the quintessential American sport, is a Muslim.

Not that it matters what I say. You live in a bubble and clearly have no understanding of how the world works. Besides I'd love to see you spew your racist shit to my face, I'm willing to bet you wouldn't have the balls.

You probably have some shitty job or live with your parents so you take out your feeling of inadequacy on others. But keep on being an anonymous keyboard warrior, I'm sure you'll accomplish something with your life eventually.

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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 01 October 2015
generic-user-1 said:
Mendicate Bias said:

That's why Muslims born in America have on average higher education and income levels compared to white Americans. Or why the only ethnic minority to own a NFL team, the quintessential American sport, is a Muslim.

Not that it matters what I say. You live in a bubble and clearly have no understanding of how the world works. Besides I'd love to see you spew your racist shit to my face, I'm willing to bet you wouldn't have the balls.

You probably have some shitty job or live with your parents so you take out your feeling of inadequacy on others. But keep on being an anonymous keyboard warrior, I'm sure you'll accomplish something with your life eventually.


muslims arent a ethnic minority, its a religiouse group, not a ethnic group.

 

and he is right, muslims will never truly integrate in a modern society, BUT, the same goes for other religions too.

With all do respect

 

Seperation of Church and State is a thing.



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

Dr.Henry_Killinger on 01 October 2015
contestgamer said:
VGPolyglot said:
This thread honestly made me very disappointed in the community here. I can't believe how racist xenophobic and Islamophobic people are here. Many of the Syrians are only fleeing their country because they have to to survive. Also, I know many Muslims where I live and life is fine here. Us treating them with hate and disgust is exactly what will make them become extreme; on the other hand, treating them with kindness and compassion will let them integrate more easily preventing extremism. Also, it is not the illegal immigrants that are at fault for our economic position, it is rich businessmen that refuse to give more than they have to, having billions of dollars in the bank that they will never use while many people are struggling to pay for food. Also we should view Syrians as citizens of the world, instead of thinking "oh we're not responsible for them!" We are in a world of increasing globalization so that train of thought makes no sense.


We are in a world made up of countries. Until you have your fantasy one world government, we're going to stay that way.

It doesn't require a fantasy one world government, it just requires people to grow the fuck up. You know becomes citizens of a modern world and accept each other? Instead of making idiotic ignorant statements about others simply because they are different or because a ballsack in a toupe told them too. 

Its laughable that you suggest that such a thing would require a one world government, when tolerance is the basic prerequiste to being cosmopolitian at at home in many different countries and cultures. 



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

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generic-user-1 on 01 October 2015
contestgamer said:
SuperNova said:

 

Well in that case, Europe should call America and Australia, and take it's millions upon millions of refugees back. And those were of the extra filthy kind too, there wasn't even a war of anything going on in europe at the time, they were just poor and saw no other way but to go across the ocean in search of a better life. Filthy assholes should have just dealt with the cards life dealt them. But I guess it's fine if you steal a country from people that have less military denfense than you right?

By that logic no one should ever immigrate anywhere no matter the circumstances or how beneficial it might be for the country to have someone immigrate to them, because countries are for their own people.

Nevermind that Countries and borders are arbetrairy concepts that we decide upon, sometimes as recently as 25 years ago.

Also you completely disregarded my question why it Should be Turkeys/Jordans/Egypts concern but not ours.

And these young male refugees? They have no weapons or military training whatsoever, but yeah of course they should be running into their sure death instead of trying to save their families.

I'm sorry to say, you're not making sense.


Turkey, etc should house them because unfortunately we have global asylum laws that needed to be abided by and these people need to be dumped somewhere according to international law - they're the closest safe countries to the conflict believe it or not, NOT Germany thousands of miles away. Also, 70% of these refugees are young men - they're not fleeing with their "families". Immigration and migrating by ILLEGAL crossing the borders of multiple countries is a totally different thing. Following the rule of law and procedures in place for legal immigration is fine by me - crossing borders illegally is unacceptable and they should be jailed by the countries they trespass in to.

 

 

And so what if countries are arbitrary? everything is - so are global asylum laws we made up, so is our sense of morality which makes you think we should do more for these people. That said nations do exist - we dont live in a one world state. There sure as hell isn't any dispute that Europe and the US are not Syria or the middle east.

well there are reasons for young men to run away alone.   those fleeing from draft shouldnt be integrated, but they cant go back atm, so they should life in camps and get education. 



zuvuyeay on 01 October 2015

how many has israel taken in ,
on that map with the numbers israel isn't even mentioned,doesn't it border syria & jordan

be nice to see the gulf states taking in some of their fellow muslims with saudi,they can build playgrounds,hotels in the desert with sporting stadiums and F1 tracks but take not a single refugee

why is that,don't they have a lefty media



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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 01 October 2015
contestgamer said:
SuperNova said:

 

Well in that case, Europe should call America and Australia, and take it's millions upon millions of refugees back. And those were of the extra filthy kind too, there wasn't even a war of anything going on in europe at the time, they were just poor and saw no other way but to go across the ocean in search of a better life. Filthy assholes should have just dealt with the cards life dealt them. But I guess it's fine if you steal a country from people that have less military denfense than you right?

By that logic no one should ever immigrate anywhere no matter the circumstances or how beneficial it might be for the country to have someone immigrate to them, because countries are for their own people.

Nevermind that Countries and borders are arbetrairy concepts that we decide upon, sometimes as recently as 25 years ago.

Also you completely disregarded my question why it Should be Turkeys/Jordans/Egypts concern but not ours.

And these young male refugees? They have no weapons or military training whatsoever, but yeah of course they should be running into their sure death instead of trying to save their families.

I'm sorry to say, you're not making sense.


Turkey, etc should house them because unfortunately we have global asylum laws that needed to be abided by and these people need to be dumped somewhere according to international law - they're the closest safe countries to the conflict believe it or not, NOT Germany thousands of miles away. Also, 70% of these refugees are young men - they're not fleeing with their "families". Immigration and migrating by ILLEGAL crossing the borders of multiple countries is a totally different thing. Following the rule of law and procedures in place for legal immigration is fine by me - crossing borders illegally is unacceptable and they should be jailed by the countries they trespass in to.

 

 

And so what if countries are arbitrary? everything is - so are global asylum laws we made up, so is our sense of morality which makes you think we should do more for these people. That said nations do exist - we dont live in a one world state. There sure as hell isn't any dispute that Europe and the US are not Syria or the middle east.

What the hell are you talking about? This one world state garbage is completely irrelevant to the issue at hand.



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

zuvuyeay on 01 October 2015

what about china,russia,japan the rest of asia,latin america if we are such a one world spirit why isn't the lefty eu media pressurising all these countries some of them extremely wealthy to take in 100,000's of refugees



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contestgamer on 01 October 2015
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
contestgamer said:


Turkey, etc should house them because unfortunately we have global asylum laws that needed to be abided by and these people need to be dumped somewhere according to international law - they're the closest safe countries to the conflict believe it or not, NOT Germany thousands of miles away. Also, 70% of these refugees are young men - they're not fleeing with their "families". Immigration and migrating by ILLEGAL crossing the borders of multiple countries is a totally different thing. Following the rule of law and procedures in place for legal immigration is fine by me - crossing borders illegally is unacceptable and they should be jailed by the countries they trespass in to.

 

 

And so what if countries are arbitrary? everything is - so are global asylum laws we made up, so is our sense of morality which makes you think we should do more for these people. That said nations do exist - we dont live in a one world state. There sure as hell isn't any dispute that Europe and the US are not Syria or the middle east.

What the hell are you talking about? This one world state garbage is completely irrelevant to the issue at hand.

 

Learn to read. It was a reply to someone talking about the arbritrary nature of countries. Fact is until there are countries on this planet we're not responsible for people in other countries - as a matter of fact they're obstacles in a global economy and our leaders shouldn't give a damn about anything besides advancing our national interests.