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Big effin sigh...

Why wont this non-issue just go away? We are here peacefully just wanting to play games and these people keep trying to nose in on our business. I dont even have words anymore. I just don't care anymore. Go play victim if you want... i'm gonna play games and ignore you. If games are influenced by you, i wont buy them. That simple.



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Maybe they should speak about something they're knowledgeable in. Maybe about persecution complex or attention whoring. idk



I take a more a nuanced approach here. I don't agree with everything Saarkesian says, but I can't say with a straight face that she's completely wrong about everything either though because my nerd-rage commands me to protect my precious hobby and my ego just can't take it being challenged in any way.

She does make some valid points *some times*. Again I don't agree with everything.

That doesn't mean I want every game to be completely designed to appease her tastes either, but I do think developers can use some common sense to avoid some embarrassing scenarios. 

The portrayal of Samus in the last Metroid WAS embarrassing, as a guy it was laughably lame and yes, sexist. They should have handled that differently. And yes maybe Peach doesn't need to get kidnapped like almost freaking Mario platformer game, that I can agree with too. 



At the same time, Saudi Arabia heads the UN Human Rights council when they will be executing a young man for protesting against the king. The UN is messed up.



Soundwave said:

The portrayal of Samus in the last Metroid WAS embarrassing, as a guy it was laughably lame and yes, sexist. They should have handled that differently. And yes maybe Peach doesn't need to get kidnapped like almost freaking Mario platformer game, that I can agree with too. 

Really? Wtf?

You need something to trigger the adventure, it doesn't need to be peach being kidnnaped (and sometimes it isn't), but that's just as valid. What happens if Luigi is kidnnaped? It that ok? Or is it sexist too? Who can Bowser kidnap? Peach is a central figure in the world, kidnapping her gives you power over a Kingdom, makes sense. What kidnapping Luigi will achieve? Free plumbing? He sucks at that!!!!

Why ignore Goombella
 (a second-year co-ed student studying archaeology at the University of Goom), Lady Bow (leader of the Boos of Boo's Mansion) and Rosalina (protector of the fucking cosmos) and focus on Peach?


Now, i also dislike the last Samus, it was hardly the way western gamers picture her. Still, i think you are wrong. That was not sexist. Quiet is sexist! Walking around half naked for no good reason and showing her boobs to snake all the time. That doesn't mean all women (or characters), protagonist or not, need to be strong, independent and never feel anything about anyone (or not get sad if their felling are not matched).

To be in love and not be corresponded is sad as f***, it is ok (and normal) to be unhappy over that. Some people are shy, some people are cowards. Some feel platonic love.

The industry should not be restricted from any character archetype, from femme fatale to extremely shy in love, as long as it fits the story and world. 



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vkaraujo said:
Soundwave said:

The portrayal of Samus in the last Metroid WAS embarrassing, as a guy it was laughably lame and yes, sexist. They should have handled that differently. And yes maybe Peach doesn't need to get kidnapped like almost freaking Mario platformer game, that I can agree with too. 

Really? Wtf?

You need something to trigger the adventure, it doesn't need to be peach being kidnnaped (and sometimes it isn't), but that's just as valid. What happens if Luigi is kidnnaped? It that ok? Or is it sexist too? Who can Bowser kidnap? Peach is a central figure in the world, kidnapping her gives you power over a Kingdom, makes sense. What kidnapping Luigi will achieve? Free plumbing? He sucks at that!!!!

Why ignore Goombella
 (a second-year co-ed student studying archaeology at the University of Goom), Lady Bow (leader of the Boos of Boo's Mansion) and Rosalina (protector of the fucking cosmos) and focus on Peach?


Now, i also dislike the last Samus, it was hardly the way western gamers picture her. Still, i think you are wrong. That was not sexist. Quiet is sexist! Walking around half naked for no good reason and showing her boobs to snake all the time. That doesn't mean all women (or characters), protagonist or not, need to be strong, independent and never feel anything about anyone (or not get sad if their felling are not matched).

To be in love and not be corresponded is sad as f***, it is ok (and normal) to be unhappy over that. Some people are shy, some people are cowards. Some feel platonic love.

The industry should not be restricted from any character archetype, from femme fatale to extremely shy in love, as long as it fits the story and world. 


Take two minutes and come up with something better than the "Peach has been kidnapped by Koopa! Again!".

It's a tired archetype anyway, like jeezus think of something else please. 

Do guys even like the freaking "rescue the princess" archetype? For me even as a kid it started to get lame even around the time Super Mario World came out, like "she's been kidnapped ... again? What's her fucking problem". 



Yeah because this is actually real problems facing the Rest of the world. she should stay with her first world problems in the US



StarOcean said:
Also like how they want to only end online harassment towards women and girls... because men and boys don't get harassed online, right?

This. They're implying that online harassment is only done against females when it also happens to males. Next thing we know, Anita will be speaking at the UN decrying censorship...



pokoko said:
Only females get harassed online? That's interesting.


It's a female privilege !



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Ruler said:
Yeah because this is actually real problems facing the Rest of the world. she should stay with her first world problems in the US


You know another "1st world problem?". Video gamers feel they're being persecuted. So lets not complain about anything. 

If it's not a big deal then why get upset at someone who has a different opinion?