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Btw. you should watcher Super Bunnyhops video on the game, I found myself agreeing with a lot of what he said (after what little I played)



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Versus_Evil said:
jardesonbarbosa said:
Some weeks ago, The Phantom Pain was the best game ever released, now everyone seems to agree it's a disappointment. It's MGS4 all over again. In some years everyone will remember it as the bad MGS game.


Dont think becuase of the thread title/content that were all in agreement thats its a dissapointment, i would say nearly everyone in here greatly enjoys the game but it does have problems, (as does every great game) and the purpose of the thread is basicly to highlight these, its certaintly not bad, but its not the best MGS either.

Correct. It's not like I'm on my way to Gamestop to trade the game just because it tarnishes everything related to Metal Gear. It's just a game with excellent gameplay and poor narrative and story. I really don't know if this will be the last we'll see from the series, but if Konami really wants to keep the franchise, why not remake the MG and MG2? They have the Fox Engine, they have the resources made from TPP... why not tie up the story from the last game and finish it with the real story behind Outer Heaven and Zanzibarland?



KyleeStrutt said:
QUAKECore89 said:

I honestly agree with you, i love this franchise, but i find this one is quite annoying, so... Here's my problem, well... Um.. As you can see.. Every time you finish mission you have to call helicopter & on & on & on & on - ugh lol. And chapter 2 feels like scrambled because i have to do some "important" side ops.. Errr... Aren't they suppose to be part of main missions? And why did they repeat few old missions from chapter 1 with challenge version (extreme, substance, total stealth) on chapter 2? Boss fight, no, i don't like it, nothing epic fight for me... Quiet, *flips table*, i finished the game, however my completion is only 39%, i don't care about side ops. xD(Even Motherbase... I know there are everything out there... And i hate progress!).

One more thing. {DO NOT READ, IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED THE GAME YET. SPOILER}

True ending... Wow! Great plot-twist, we've been playing as medic a whole time, not a real Big Boss, his Phantom. No wonder why real Big Boss appeared again in Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. Imagine you had glitch/bug triggered that goes straight to the true ending, you would've been desperate as f@#k. And yeah, episode 51 is very sadly not indcluded due to budget issue, unless only for collector's can watch the concept.

It really is one of the most needless and worst handled plot twist in the series.

I mean, people figured it out when the game was announced.

I've seen couple youtubers posted their own theories last year(or earlier), I thought they're crazy.



QUAKECore89 said:

I've seen couple youtubers posted their own theories last year(or earlier), I thought they're crazy.

A sizeable piece of the fanbase spotted the twist as soon as the debut trailer came out in 2013, with each trailer it became more apparent and even more with Ground Zeroes.

Hell, the opening of the game gives the twist away!!!



I just can't get over the ending, having beaten the game just two hours ago. Seriously, I have the strong feeling that the game should have either concluded on the first act, with the "revenge" thingy and Huey screaming like an idiot after killing Zero, or just plain and simple do something different. The way it is, the massive retcon and all that, it just makes me feel like the plot was the most unnecesary thing ever. There's Zero explanations here, Liquid running around with the most powerful Metal Gear ever conceived, Kaz spitting Big Boss EXCLUSIVELY because he didn't told him his plan, not because he realized he's a killer, Ocelot just...uh, being around, and a second Big Boss that creates a second Outer Heaven but that gets destroyed and no one ever brings that up again.



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KyleeStrutt said:
The enemy sniper.

Boss, that's an enemy gunship.

"You're going to extract him?" - Mission objective is extracting him.

I'm glad you guys are tagging spoilers since I haven't beaten it yet, but I have heard Chapter 2 is just 1 with modifiers. Very disappointing. My biggest problem is the checkpoint sucks; one little mistake and you lost everything you extracted from the mission. 



Wright said:

I just can't get over the ending, having beaten the game just two hours ago. Seriously, I have the strong feeling that the game should have either concluded on the first act, with the "revenge" thingy and Huey screaming like an idiot after killing Zero, or just plain and simple do something different. The way it is, the massive retcon and all that, it just makes me feel like the plot was the most unnecesary thing ever. There's Zero explanations here, Liquid running around with the most powerful Metal Gear ever conceived, Kaz spitting Big Boss EXCLUSIVELY because he didn't told him his plan, not because he realized he's a killer, Ocelot just...uh, being around, and a second Big Boss that creates a second Outer Heaven but that gets destroyed and no one ever brings that up again.

The game doesn't really have an ending though, you just get a pointless plot twist and then it keeps going, there's no second Outer Heaven either, Venom creates the only one there ever is.

 

Sparse checkpoints are also a good thing in the game, it raises the stakes, its not as if the game isn't already too easy.



KyleeStrutt said:

The game doesn't really have an ending though, you just get a pointless plot twist and then it keeps going, there's no second Outer Heaven either, Venom creates the only one there ever is.


Yeah, that's another thing. It's totally pointless. I felt disappointed with it.

 

There's at least the neat touch that you can now play as yourself.



Another thing I couldn't get over the whole time I was playing the game was.......

Who the hell is this dude claiming to be Ocelot? Cus he sure as shit has fuck all to do with the Ocelot portraid in every other MGS. Seriously. Every single time he popped up and opened his mouth I was like "WHO ARE YOU?!"

What happened to all the quirkiness and arrogance?
Instead some cool, calm, master of torture but idealist "kill nobody, let them parade around motherbase" moron takes his place. Wtf?



Angelus said:

What happened to all the quirkiness and arrogance?


This is the only explanation I can give you: