fleischr said:
Here's the rub though: the MK8 promo actually made the console a better value in summer 2014 than this past summer. The numbers in summer are so low anyway that these percentages matter little until the holiday season comes and goes. |
thank you for explaining that, that is exactly what i was trying to say in my response to this user. :)
| fatslob-:O said: No, a price cut won't suffice and the WII U is already falling behind compared to last year at the same point and time ... Last year's holiday line up had Hyrule Warriors, Bayonetta 2, and Super Smash Bros so Xenoblade Chronicles X hardly compares that ... |
Hyrule Warriors released in September in the west and august in Japan. If you include Hyrule Warriors into the holiday lineup of last year you'll have to include Super Mario Maker into this year's lineup too. Bayonetta 2 released in october (september in Japan), but didn't do very much to boost the sales. Smash Bros, on the other hand, didn't push very much hardware because the game was already out on 3DS for several months then.
Also where's Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, Fatal Frame 5, Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival? Yoshi's Whooly World also counts in North America for this year's holiday season.
| RubberWhistleHistle said: id like to look at actual numbers since percentages can be quite deceptive and dont tell you what you really need to know when discussing this topic. july 2014: 218k july 2015: 152k difference of 70k august 2014: 193k august 2015: 150k difference of 40k total difference of 110k that is a pretty big difference for two months that i called "close," i agree. but when you consider that in 2014, the wii u sold 1,174k in december, the difference of 110k for those months, and the differences in may+june could be easily undone if in 2015, wii u has a 1,500k december. which seems pretty feasible if they have better marketing this year. this is a very very attainable number. |
The total difference for the whole year right now is 224K in favour of last year and it's not like the gap won't increase in the coming months ...
Getting a 28% increase in sales at December compared to last year is easier said than done when this year's line up doesn't match yp to last year's ...
In fact that type of gain is bordering on the lines of a wish rather than an optimistic prediction with a solid basis ...
| Bofferbrauer said: Hyrule Warriors released in September in the west and august in Japan. If you include Hyrule Warriors into the holiday lineup of last year you'll have to include Super Mario Maker into this year's lineup too. Bayonetta 2 released in october (september in Japan), but didn't do very much to boost the sales. Smash Bros, on the other hand, didn't push very much hardware because the game was already out on 3DS for several months then. Also where's Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, Fatal Frame 5, Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival? Yoshi's Whooly World also counts in North America for this year's holiday season. |
Fatal Frame 5 and Yoshi's Whooly World are big franchises ? Well that's news to me ...
And you want me to count two extreme spin-offs ?
fatslob-:O said:
Fatal Frame 5 and Yoshi's Whooly World are big franchises ? Well that's news to me ... And you want me to count two extreme spin-offs ? |
I have to agree with you that it's unlikely that wiiU will be up YoY but I wouldn't discount Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival just yet. Even tough it probably won't be a massive success among the core, I think that that title has some big potential to be a big system seller this holiday among casual consumers. Especially in Japan where Animal crossing is a massive franchise.
Predictions for LT console sales:
PS4: 120M
XB1: 70M
WiiU: 14M
3DS: 60M
Vita: 13M
RubberWhistleHistle said:
2014 is the big debate here to see which year will be the peak year. i think the wii u's 2015 lineup is weaker than the 2014 lineup, but if nintendo actually advertises, there is no reason that they cant sell more in september through december in 2015 than in 2014. seems like their advertising is better than it has been in the past two years, so this is pretty much what we are banking on. |
well i would say backlog is a good buy argument, mk and smash will sale well again this holiday, nintendo games dont die after some months-
fatslob-:O said:
The total difference for the whole year right now is 224K in favour of last year and it's not like the gap won't increase in the coming months ... Getting a 28% increase in sales at December compared to last year is easier said than done when this year's line up doesn't match yp to last year's ... In fact that type of gain is bordering on the lines of a wish rather than an optimistic prediction with a solid basis ... |
I'm not sure it will.
Wii U had a bad spring this year, and the rest comes from the MK8 promotion last year. In Japan, the trend is already reversing, and I'm pretty sure Super Mario Maker will push this year's september over the one of the last year. As I explained in my previous post, october and november will probably be very close, followed by an advantage for 2015 in december. The main question is how big that advantage will be in the end and if it suffices to surpass the advantage 2014 has amassed over the course of it's year.
fatslob-:O said:
Fatal Frame 5 and Yoshi's Whooly World are big franchises ? Well that's news to me ... And you want me to count two extreme spin-offs ? |
You included Bayonetta 2, which is, like it's predecessor, an acclaimed flop saleswise. So if you include that game I can include other games which are small but can possibly even do more for Wii U sales than Bayonetta 2 did
| benji232 said: I have to agree with you that it's unlikely that wiiU will be up YoY but I wouldn't discount Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival just yet. Even tough it probably won't be a massive success among the core, I think that that title has some big potential to be a big system seller this holiday among casual consumers. Especially in Japan where Animal crossing is a massive franchise. |
We'll see soon enough ...
| Bofferbrauer said: You included Bayonetta 2, which is, like it's predecessor, an acclaimed flop saleswise. So if you include that game I can include other games which are small but can possibly even do more for Wii U sales than Bayonetta 2 did |
Except those are harder to sell than Bayonetta 2 and that especially goes for Fatal Frame when none of the entries went to sell more than 200K ...
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