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ice on 18 September 2015
Ruler said:
iceland said:

Actually it's their fault if they don't make games that appeal to gamers. We don't owe companies shit

What gamers? dudebros and casuals who are too dumb for Metal Gear?


What? Either way, there's no blood on our hands. We shouldn't feel compelled to buy a game just to make a company happy. They aren't charity cases.



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Xxain on 18 September 2015
iceland said:
Xxain said:

How do figure that? I think they made it very clear. I want you to tell me how no longer developing "AAA" basically means no retail. 

So you think this news is solely about MGS? If they aren't satisfied with those sales what makes you think they'll try to make a retail SIlent Hill or something?

KONAMI has decided to no longer pursue games that have budgets like MGS and Pes. Those are the company exceptions. ALL of KONAMI's other IP's - Castlevania, Contra, Bomberman, Yu Gi Oh,  Frogger, their arcade catalogue ext, DO NOT need and never had those budgets. AAA is a term related budget size of a games development. It just means when KONAMI puts out console games they will have mid to low tier budgets. That is fine. 



ice on 18 September 2015
Xxain said:
iceland said:

So you think this news is solely about MGS? If they aren't satisfied with those sales what makes you think they'll try to make a retail SIlent Hill or something?

KONAMI has decided to no longer pursue games that have budgets like MGS and Pes. Those are the company exceptions. ALL of KONAMI's other IP's - Castlevania, Contra, Bomberman, Yu Gi Oh,  Frogger, their arcade catalogue ext, DO NOT need and never had those budgets. AAA is a term related budget size of a games development. It just means when KONAMI puts out console games they will have mid to low tier budgets. That is fine. 

Okay, and I can see those games getting small digital releases. Retail games for new consoles are pretty much considered AAA this gen unless it's painfully obvious the budget is small. If they made a new Silent Hill game, they'd probably consider that AAA. I'm willing to bet their retail offerings will be almost abysmal this gen.



fatslob-:O on 18 September 2015
Ruler said:

So EA and Activision must be some of the best companies out there in mandkinds existince

Despite all the noise on the internet they do make some very good games and that especially goes to Activision (Blizzard) ... 

I can't count to you how many times Konami has fucked over their fans ...

Contra, Castlevania, Zone of the Enders, Suikoden, Silent Hill fans got screwed and soon to be Metal Gear ... 

Konami is the epitome of shit no matter how you look at it ... 



Xxain on 18 September 2015
iceland said:
Xxain said:

KONAMI has decided to no longer pursue games that have budgets like MGS and Pes. Those are the company exceptions. ALL of KONAMI's other IP's - Castlevania, Contra, Bomberman, Yu Gi Oh,  Frogger, their arcade catalogue ext, DO NOT need and never had those budgets. AAA is a term related budget size of a games development. It just means when KONAMI puts out console games they will have mid to low tier budgets. That is fine. 

Okay, and I can see those games getting small digital releases. Retail games for new consoles are pretty much considered AAA this gen unless it's painfully obvious the budget is small. If they made a new Silent Hill game, they'd probably consider that AAA. I'm willing to bet their retail offerings will be almost abysmal this gen.


You are full of shit. 

But first - Does anybody else agree with post. This could actually shed light.

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Azhraell on 18 September 2015

New Super Snake Bros U? fk no lol



ice on 18 September 2015
Xxain said:
iceland said:

Okay, and I can see those games getting small digital releases. Retail games for new consoles are pretty much considered AAA this gen unless it's painfully obvious the budget is small. If they made a new Silent Hill game, they'd probably consider that AAA. I'm willing to bet their retail offerings will be almost abysmal this gen.


You are full of shit. 

But first - Does anybody else agree with post. This could actually shed light.


Well it's my opinion/thoughts , and a rational one at that. So yeahh I'm "full of shit"



fatslob-:O on 18 September 2015
Xxain said:

KONAMI has decided to no longer pursue games that have budgets like MGS and Pes. Those are the company exceptions. ALL of KONAMI's other IP's - Castlevania, Contra, Bomberman, Yu Gi Oh,  Frogger, their arcade catalogue ext, DO NOT need and never had those budgets. AAA is a term related budget size of a games development. It just means when KONAMI puts out console games they will have mid to low tier budgets. That is fine. 

Cool but that doesn't mean that they can't turn their other franchises into AAA series ...

Plus AAA games were a lot cheaper to make back in the days so some of them can still be qualified as "AAA" ... 



Xxain on 18 September 2015
iceland said:
Xxain said:


You are full of shit. 

But first - Does anybody else agree with post. This could actually shed light.


Well it's my opinion/thoughts , and a rational one at that. So yeahh I'm "full of shit"


Just because you have an opinion does not void you from being wrong or right. There is NOTHING rational about retail games = AAA development, matter of fact no matter how you cut it, budget or quality, thats pretty irrational. 



LuckyTrouble on 18 September 2015
Ruler said:
LuckyTrouble said:
Ruler said:

in the end we are to be blamed not Konami. We didnt buy their games,
well at least i did with Yu Gi Oh! and MGS5 for PS4 which are some of the best games this Gen

That's not it. At all. They just discovered that mobile was low effort, low budget, high profit. Why spend a year or two developing a game that may sell 1.5 million copies and pull in a few million in revenue in the end, when you can make a mobile title in a few months that will be downloaded 10+ million times and rake in tens of millions in profits? Konami's bigger releases would have to sell on the level of some of the best games in a given year to even start tempting them to go back to console game development over mobile, and that's just not reasonable when most of their series fall into the category of "niche with a decent sized cult following".


They are niche now because we didnt buy their games now

And why is that the fault of us as gamers? As gamers, we vote on what we like with our wallets. If we don't particularly like Konami's offerings, that isn't our fault. If their games don't resonate with our interests, it isn't our fault. It's ultimately their fault for failing to turn out content that was good enough to gather mass market appeal with more than just a name.

We can sing the praises of as many of their releases as we'd like, but in the end, they were never series with large market appeal. That is a problem for Konami as the developer, not for us as gamers.