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Would the industry be better off without used games?

Yes 27 20.61%
 
No 104 79.39%
 
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asqarkabab said:
I love it and hope it stays alive and next gen and b3yond have disc games


Neither of those are happening, dude. Make piece with that while you still can.



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Who cares for the industry , I care for the consumers. used games are a good thing.



Puppyroach said:
I hope the used sales market will transition into the digital marketplace. It would be great to resell my old games digitally :).


That...

You know that can't happen, right? Like, that obviously can't happen. No company in their right mind would create a controlled digital ecosystem nessecary for a digital market place, only to relenquish that control to consumers and allow them to make that money instead. Publishers like digital because it kills used games. They aren't suddenly going to bring it back.



BraLoD said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:
BraLoD said:
I love it.
Thanks for keeping it alive PS4.

lol wow. good one


It's funny you find truth funny.

first of all, youre taking the most negative spin possible on my comment. i thought it was funny because you know how i like nintendo and dont feel much love for the ps4, so you decided to say that comment because you knew i would see it and it is a way to play my own game against me in a way. and i thought it was funny in a genuinely funny kind of way, not in a negative way.

and if you want to talk truth, the PS4 didnt save the used gaming market. Sony had their own DRM policies in place that got reversed once the shit hit the fan with MS. Sony aren't Gods of the gaming industry and again, they didn't save the used game market. 



Davman said:

Who cares for the industry , I care for the consumers. used games are a good thing.


A less lucrative industry means less games to play, which is a bad thing. Bad for the consumer. You can say "who cares for the industry" all you want, but if you say you care for consumers, a healthy industry is better for consumers than every used game in the world.



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I love the used market personally. Wait a week, and most of the time you can get the game for roughly $20 less than the release price was. As for the industry, obviously developers would be better off if the used market didn't exist.



spemanig said:
Puppyroach said:
I hope the used sales market will transition into the digital marketplace. It would be great to resell my old games digitally :).


That...

You know that can't happen, right? Like, that obviously can't happen. No company in their right mind would create a controlled digital ecosystem nessecary for a digital market place, only to relenquish that control to consumers and allow them to make that money instead. Publishers like digital because it kills used games. They aren't suddenly going to bring it back.

You know EU already have a ruling about this matter. They understand digital purchase as ownership, not licensing for use, so if you own the product you have the right to sell it. If it ever comes to fruition it will be due to law enforcement.

 

Well, my thought like I said, I own the copy, I have all the right to sell it. Imagine if Hyundai puts a lock in their car so it can't be resold, and if a person purchases it they have to pay a fee to Hyundai themselves so they can turn the car on. Or if I want buy a house that is already of someone and that were made by a construction company, I buy the house, but to get the keys to live in it I have to go to the original company that builted and pay 20,000 USD to have the keys. I think in media, mainly physical media, the same way.



Industry would be without a doubt better without it. If 80% of people didn't buy a game if they couldn't get it used even if they did buy it used the gaming industry gets no money. But gets 20% extra from the others.

It would get everything over to digital quicker aswell.



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spemanig said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:

Developers would have to drastically lower the prices of new games. Is that feasible for what we would consider AAA releases such as the new batman, new uncharted, halo games, etc.? I am not much of a steam gamer (at all!) but I am pretty sure that the budget for those kinds of games are not the same as those that are getting released for PS4/Wii U/ and X1. If there were no physical option for games on these systems, would they still retain their $60 price tag? Im interested to hear your thoughts on this.


No, they wouldn't. They don't do it on Steam, and no one cares. Used games are like $5 off when they are new. The used game market only really matters when games are old, in which case steam sales and developer discounts already happen there, and they are often as cheap, if not cheaper than any physical used game.

...Not the same? Is that a joke? What makes you think a PC port would be so much less expensive than a console port, if at all?

Yeah, they would retain their $60 price tag. At launch. Like most AAA games on Steam do and like all launch new used games are. Then they'd go down in price as the games get older, like all AAA Steam games do, and like all used games do. Then they'd also have the sales, which frankly happen much more often on Steam than in Gamestop or Target, with the benefit of profits actually still going to the developers.

This isn't some uncharted, innovative idea. Steam has been doing this for years. They've already killed the used game market on PC, and we all know how pompus PC gamers are about how cheap PC is compared to consoles after the initial hardware purchases. And Valve isn't exaclty hemeraging money because of it.

Well if it is so great for the developer, then why bother still supporting consoles with their games? Im sure the PS4 version of batman made a shit ton more cash for the developer than steam sales. It really goes to show what that studio thinks of PC gaming as well seeing as the PC version of the game was completely broken. How many people do you think were able to get Batman on PS4 or X1 because they were able to sell their used games for store credit? my guess is a lot. It counts for something and drives the sales of games, this is something that you simply cannot ignore or avoid. 



I have bought only used games since the fall of the canadian $, 75 to 80$ is way too much for a game, well, more than I can afford right now...

Still, compared to a blue ray movie or going to see a movie to the theater, gaming, even if you buy new offers much more bang for the bucks than most other forms of entertainment... I mean, how much are you willing to pay to see a concert? or other 1 time events? or what about 1 day of ski? Gaming is really not that expensive as a hobby.