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Would the industry be better off without used games?

Yes 27 20.61%
 
No 104 79.39%
 
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Danman27 on 17 September 2015

This is the question we're asking essential on if used games are bad. When you buy a game, what are you actually buying? Are you literally buying a copy of the game for you to use as you please? OR are you buying a license to use the game indefinitely, but in reality, the devs and publishers actually still own your copy?



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AnthonyW86 on 17 September 2015
spemanig said:
Puppyroach said:

Games stop selling at some point. If a game stops selling to the regular market at one time, and five years later it generates revenue to the publisher through a used game sales marketplace, of course its a win for the publisher. A used games marketplace that is digital can be controlled in a whole other way than at a physical store. For example, the publisher could set a time limit, meaning the game cannot be resold until a cetrain amount of time has passed. It would be the same principle as with Games with Gold or PS Plus.


Games don't stop selling with digital, dude. That's the point. Five years later, that game would still be bought new with digital. It would just be severely discounted. That's the win for the publisher, since they still get all of the profit. No used games, no time limit. Just price drops and pure profit.

Yes but all that extra profit comes out of our pockets, or means limiting the amount of games we get to play if money is tight. So unless you are a publisher yourself, i don't get why you seem so happy about a digital-only future.



The Fury on 17 September 2015
Danman27 said:
This is the question we're asking essential on if used games are bad. When you buy a game, what are you actually buying? Are you literally buying a copy of the game for you to use as you please? OR are you buying a license to use the game indefinitely, but in reality, the devs and publishers actually still own your copy?

Completely different situations on both.

A digital copy of a game you are buying a licence to play the game and then you download it to play it. You at this time cannot sell that licence because the licence is tied to you.

When you buy a dsic game you are buying a disc containing a licenced copy of the game and the digital version of the game just stored on a disc. You can sell the game/licence because it's tied to the disc, not you.

You don't ever really own a game/any piece of software, unless you actually wrote it. That's part of how software licencing works.



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PwerlvlAmy on 17 September 2015

the industry needs the used game market imo



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Frogger on 17 September 2015
AnthonyW86 said:

Yes but all that extra profit comes out of our pockets, or means limiting the amount of games we get to play if money is tight. So unless you are a publisher yourself, i don't get why you seem so happy about a digital-only future.


Steam proves that "digital games are more expensive" is false. It wouldn't limit anything more than used games do.



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Frogger on 17 September 2015
Valdath said:

I only buy physical, i actually like to own the games i buy.

The moment consoles go digital only, i'll just get a PC and pirate everything.

What's the point of buying a "license"to play a game lol, fuck off.

 

This industry has so much BS that could never happen in other idustries, can't wait for the digital only future, where games are sold for 80$ and if a developer doesn't like something you said on their forum, they can just remove your license to play the single player game you just bought.

 

People actually think digital only will make games cheaper? Lol get real, without used games publishers can do whatever they want and there's no cheaper option.

 

Some people seem to have a hard on for digital only... well guys, you will have to wait some time before your anti-consumer wishes get true, deal with it :).


Over 125 million gaming consumers are digital only already. It already is cheaper, now. You get with it.



Valdath on 17 September 2015
spemanig said:
Valdath said:

I only buy physical, i actually like to own the games i buy.

The moment consoles go digital only, i'll just get a PC and pirate everything.

What's the point of buying a "license"to play a game lol, fuck off.

 

This industry has so much BS that could never happen in other idustries, can't wait for the digital only future, where games are sold for 80$ and if a developer doesn't like something you said on their forum, they can just remove your license to play the single player game you just bought.

 

People actually think digital only will make games cheaper? Lol get real, without used games publishers can do whatever they want and there's no cheaper option.

 

Some people seem to have a hard on for digital only... well guys, you will have to wait some time before your anti-consumer wishes get true, deal with it :).


Over 125 million gaming consumers are digital only already. It already is cheaper, now. You get with it.

Over 125 million but how many of those buy actual games?This isn't about mobile or cheap shitty f2p mmos/mobas.

Real console games still sell more on physical, and that won't change in the near future.



AnthonyW86 on 17 September 2015
spemanig said:
AnthonyW86 said:

Yes but all that extra profit comes out of our pockets, or means limiting the amount of games we get to play if money is tight. So unless you are a publisher yourself, i don't get why you seem so happy about a digital-only future.


Steam proves that "digital games are more expensive" is false. It wouldn't limit anything more than used games do.

I own quite a few games on Steam but i can never resell those games. More importantly if i buy a new PC i can install steam and play all those games without a problem. You can't do that with consoles(not yet anyway). If you upgrade to PS4 you can't play your digital library of PS3 games on it. And if you sell the PS3 you can't sell the games with them. And as long as that's the case i will always buy my console games on disc if possible.



Frogger on 17 September 2015
Valdath said:

Over 125 million but how many of those buy actual games?This isn't about mobile or cheap shitty f2p mmos/mobas.

Real console games still sell more on physical, and that won't change in the near future.


All of them. That statistic is specifically for "active users." As in people who actively and regularly buy games on the platform. 125 million + are doing that right now on Steam.

So no, digital is still becoming king.



sethnintendo on 17 September 2015
Neodegenerate said:
It is a necessary evil. Ideally everyone would just buy new so the devs can get a piece of every sale and everything would run nice and smooth.

Usually the only way to get previous generation games at a decent price is used.  The still in box/wrapper games from previous generations prices are a joke.  I still try to buy new for the current and previous generation but trying to buy new for PS2/GC, N64/PS1 is not worth it.