What if Super Mario 64 was a failure?

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Ultrashroomz on 11 September 2015

3D gaming would never be the same.

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sethnintendo on 11 September 2015

d21lewis said:

sethnintendo said:

Playstation did outsell the N64 (you should know this and if so it was a dumb joke; only your super aids saved you from going to a corner and crying). I blame release delay and carts at the time being so expensive to losing to Sony. Now that carts are cheap Nintendo should just go all carts. Mario Kart

So you're saying a bad Super Mario would have made N64 outsell PlayStation? Smh. Poor, naïve Seth.

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Nope, just saying the N64 delay and cart hurt Nintendo the most. I remember really wanting a N64 at the time (especially seeing a few of the "games" in the arcade like KI and Cruisin. I waited but after a few delays I couldn't wait anymore. I bought a PS1 with money from parents and chores around launch. I then thought I was grown up and Nintendo was for kids. Then I played Goldeneye and realized I was a dumb teen.

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Wyrdness on 11 September 2015

A lot of what made SM64 great was the technical side of its design as it should how to build proper 3D worlds, this is why every game engine today is considered a version of SM64's, 3D gaming would have taken a lot longer to get to where it is today as SM64 was first unveiled back in 94.

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Mr Puggsly on 11 September 2015

Soundwave said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Soundwave said:
It would have been terrible for the N64, but maybe better for Nintendo as a whole because it likely would have meant the N64 would have died earlier, thus they would have been forced to released a optical disc format console like several years earlier and may have been able to stem their losses.

In your scenario Mario 64 was the only N64 game that mattered.

The system had so few releases especially early in its life cycle though that removing Mario 64 would've been catastrophic. Your launch title then becomes Pilotwings 64 and nothing else until Wave Race 64. The system would've sputtered like the Sega Saturn did.

N64 at launch was indeed slim. But many other titles helped boost N64 games over time. Like Mario Kart, Goldeneye, Smash Bros, etc.

N64 would have sold less units without Mario 64. But it wouldnt have sold as poorly as Saturn. Gamecube still sold 20 million and it really didnt have any iconic games like N64.

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Then New Super Mario Bros. would have been an N64 game instead of a DS game.

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Mr Puggsly said:

Soundwave said:

The system had so few releases especially early in its life cycle though that removing Mario 64 would've been catastrophic. Your launch title then becomes Pilotwings 64 and nothing else until Wave Race 64. The system would've sputtered like the Sega Saturn did.

N64 at launch was indeed slim. But many other titles helped boost N64 games over time. Like Mario Kart, Goldeneye, Smash Bros, etc.

N64 would have sold less units without Mario 64. But it wouldnt have sold as poorly as Saturn. Gamecube still sold 20 million and it really didnt have any iconic games like N64.

In Germany, N64 launched with like 2 games, and there were 3 more over the next 6 months. Worst period in Nintendo history. It wasn't really until the Wii/DS era that Nintendo saw a proper release schedule again.

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