Actually no. Its a crime because its clearly stated in all US legal text.  You should really think more.

1. i think its normal that you dont let your personal beliefes influence your work if you are a public servant.

2. she doesnt have the right to have the jobs changed just because she doesnt like parts of the job. if she doesnt like her job or parts of her job, she can go and look for a new job, she isnt forced to be a public servant if she doesnt like it.

Human empathy is important, but why is it important?

Because it enables us to cooperate, which allows us to help eachother, live a higher quality of life, live longer, reproduce, etc.  

What is wrong with Chaos, from a really practical point of view? Ultimately what does it matter? One person gains this another gains that we all die in the end.

It does not enable us to build societies, and enjoy the benefits mentioned above.  

If you look at it from a moral point of view though, it starts to make much sense.  How will a person feel if I do X, how does my conscience react if I do X?

No.  Because if we allow each person to act according to their conscience, that is what is known as anarchy.  We establish laws to help us maintain a society which works, ideally, to the mutual benefit of all of us.  Social contract theory.  Reed some Rousseau.

So, we have long worked on figuring out what helps us live together as a society to ensure happiness to all.  And we're far from perfect, but we're making progress.  One of the keys to that progress has been ensuring people basic rights.

Of course, you could argue for living in a social darwinist nightmare, but I'd argue that is a very bad idea.

That is much more important than detrimental or not detrimental, which is all relative to each person's opinion.

That's totally backwards.  Conscience is relative to the individual.

Do you have a point in this that is about gay marriage?

You keep forgetting that SHE is not the office of the county clerk.  Its the duty of the office to issue the marriage certificates. Her prejudice actually impeded the functioning of local government and she intimidated the deputy clerks over the issue too.  Five of the six clerks were only too happy to start issuing the certs.  The sixth deputy clerk - is her son !

There is nothing surprising in any of the court rulings with respect to this.  Its entirely consistent with the last 50 years of case law on civil rights vs "religious" interference.  All your arguments were used in the 60's over interracial marriage.  Your arguments failed then. They are clearly failing now.

I have to get me one of these jobs where I get to do whatever I feel like.  Sounds pretty awesome.

I'm becoming increasingly tired of seeing you post here 24/7 and then pretend to be too busy to form rebuttals to my emails. 

You foolish bigot.  You do realize that it was a republican judge that ordered her to jail right? Your example is a miserable failure. It would appear I understand it a great deal more than you since given you didn't even see that there was a precedent for it.

As for "progressivist ideology"   - you sound like a tea party nutter who gets his news from Fox.  The reality is this    - gay people are entitled to equal treatment under the law.   There were plenty of accomodations made for Kim Davis on the issue but she refused them all and prevented her deputies from issuing the licenses.  If you're going to make her your poster girl martyr - you're screwed given her own 4 marriages and plenty else.

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Its very Simple: she is a "civil servant"/she is there to provide civic duty for the public, not for just her self!

Has people that are in civic service jobs forget that?
Its one thing is if the two people were of under age, or not of the same species..lol chuckle..alien lands in crop field on earth wears go earth T-shirt wants to settle down on earth raise a family with Some squid babies..should she than be able to refuse such a civil union?/or would hell hast no fury like a women scorned...apply to a alien females from another planet getting refused marriages and than that's a reason for installer war...thanks clerk of courts for everything..Lmao

The point is the law was made and be it from God above or the local .state or the Federal court..she has the right to disagree all she wants, but she was elected to uphold the higher courts of her offices and rules and regulations.

That does not mean she can " refuse" at her measure who and what people or race or creed or color she decided she wants to say no too she is a.

" Civil " who does she work for? The Public! As a civil servant's job. The law is clear and laid out for her. The people that come into her office that has and can be of legal rights to get married can and will have the right to acquire such a licence.

She as a public servant does not have the right to refuse such service based on her own idea, not because she wants to she is a " civil servant clerk"

Her office is said to when taking a oath is to uphold which law...if you cannot do so than by all means step down and remove your self from the situation but you than cannot expect to have a job the next day because of your refusal to uphold the bylaws of the court.

Here is another thing, is there a freaking sign that says " no god no shoes no service" Packard on the freaking wall?..lol

No there is not? Want to know why?/because this country is a republic and democracy not a freaking Theocracy! That's why its not there. Under god does.not mean you..as a person that get to impose Gods will, because that would be quite arrogant of you, God is the only one who can impose his will?

..but..but god works through Me..really..he does? How about since we are all humans would that also mean God works through us all? And not just you?

Its the "intent" of the Law she is trying to circumvent and that just shows that she is not there to uphold the law she was appointed to uphold, she is using an excuse not to uphold the laws she was appointed a position she was appointed to by?

 The Public!

And since the law for the public was already known for her appointed desk on what the court has decided, and since she is a volunteer "civil servant" she knows exactly what she would be getting into if the higher ups say a gay couples are in full right to marriage that is the civic duty as her appointed position must uphold. No if and or buts about it. She works for the courts, what she does in her own time is all her own, while she is on the clock she is under the publics time.

She put herself into position as a "public servant" she wanted the job? Hey everyone can complain they do not like a policy @ work..she was denied multiple times about the ability to change that policy.

They already decided after multiple times she stated ..its like in a few good men, judge I strongly disagree..denied..lol

I have read some Rousseau, stop throwing your fucking textbooks at me.

I was talking about social contract theory.  Rousseau wrote about it, so I mentioned someone you could read to learn more.  Don't know why you're butthurt about that.

I don't agree in your socially-centric view on life. I don't, absolutely don't do things just because we progress as a society.

I do things because I think, personally, that they are right.

And yes this all ties back to the topic. I live upon my own personal convictions about what is right and what is wrong, not about what is better or worse for society, that is bs. We don't work that way. Everyone is a pebble of sand on a beach, we each play our parts and ultimately it leads to the way society works but in our interactions, we behave based on personal convictions. IMHO

And if we all act simply according to our own desires, that defies the whole point of any legal system, and reduces us to anarchy.  If you think it's ok to rape people, then it is good to have a system in place that prevents you from doing that, and punishes you if you do.  If I think it's ok to steal babies and eat them, it's also good to have a system in place to stop that.  

If you think that we should not have any mechanisms in place to protect human rights, then I sincerely hope you never have to live in the world you want.

she isnt doing her job, thats why she went to jail, not because she hates gays. she can be vocaly against gay marriage and protest her own working place in all of her free time, thats her right. but she doesnt have the right to say no to the core duty she has sworne to fullfill while staying in the position that has this duty. 

a cop cant let potheads goes just because he doesnt believe in the war on drugs. she trys to do something like that, and thats just wrong and she should be fired for this