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Namiirei on 23 August 2015
patronmacabre said:

Edit: But of course, as everyone else has said, it's probably also because Atlus doesn't put games on PC. I just have been personally wondering if Sony has been involved with the game ever since the game suddenly got a PS4 port.

Nah, it's easy.

Ps3 version = Will sell a lot in japan.

Ps4 version = Will sell a lot in Us/Eu

It's the right choice for them, they can touch japan players who still didn't pass to next-gen, and occidental players who already don't really play on Ps3 anymore.



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Namiirei on 23 August 2015
RenCutypoison said:
 


I don't think it's moneyhatting as this is a regular pattern as far as niche JRPGs goes. The main reason japanese devs "hate" pc is that steam only has yen prices since 2013 or 2014.

Given recent releases, P6 or P5 vita might come to PC though.

Ehm, the main raison for the hate for pc in japan, it's because it's totally pirated. by everyone.



RenCutypoison on 23 August 2015
Namiirei said:

Ehm, the main raison for the hate for pc in japan, it's because it's totally pirated. by everyone.

Some games in japan have better DRM than i know in any occidental games.

I'm not sure japanese pirate more than EUs.

Plus piracy is rarely a loss for the publishers and most of them are fully aware of it.



Namiirei on 23 August 2015
RenCutypoison said:
Namiirei said:

Ehm, the main raison for the hate for pc in japan, it's because it's totally pirated. by everyone.

Some games in japan have better DRM than i know in any occidental games.

I'm not sure japanese pirate more than EUs.

Plus piracy is rarely a loss for the publishers and most of them are fully aware of it.


I remember reading some articles who talked about how much games were pirated on pc in japan, and why some dev had to take drastic mesure/drm to even sell some units.

And it's not only for Games, i won't even talk about anime...but i can understand that at least, because anime cost A LOT in japan.



Clyde32 on 23 August 2015

Infinitely improbable?

Guess they really know their limits.



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RenCutypoison on 23 August 2015
Namiirei said:
RenCutypoison said:

I'm not sure japanese pirate more than EUs.

Plus piracy is rarely a loss for the publishers and most of them are fully aware of it.


I remember reading some articles who talked about how much games were pirated on pc in japan, and why some dev had to take drastic mesure/drm to even sell some units.

And it's not only for Games, i won't even talk about anime...but i can understand that at least, because anime cost A LOT in japan.


Well, consider this a "freemium" service. Adobe business model works that way, with extremely expensive software a student can only afford to pirate and in the end only a small part of the users end up paying for everyone.

Also what kind of jap games on pc requires DRM ? MMOs but they do as they would anywhere else on the globe, and other than MMOs there are almost only VNs (no DRM/light DRM) and indie games (no DRM).



outlawauron on 23 August 2015
patronmacabre said:
outlawauron said:

Why would a Sony moneyhat even be a potential reason? They don't care about PC versions of their contracts (SF5 most notably).


Street Fighter is a much more popular game, so it would cost way, way more to keep it off of PC as well. Additionally, PC is potentially mutually beneficial for Sony with SFV, because cross-platform play increases the number of players online, which is essential for keeping a multiplayer-centric game alive. 

Persona, on the other hand, is relatively niche and single player. 

I don't think it's true that Sony doesn't care about PC as a competitor. If they didn't, they would be eager to put their IPs on Steam. It's just that, as the PS4 is still young, it does not have the player base to compete with PC at the moment. So Sony tries to avoid this by considering PC gaming to be a completely separate gaming entity. Those are just my thoughts.

As a side note, if Sony is actually moneyhatting Persona 5, I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. It might possibly be a very good thing in some instances. Say, for example, if Sony were to be funding the localization of the game, I'm sure Sony would have the monetary resources to get Troy Baker to voice a major role -- something that Atlus evidently does not have, as Troy Baker has become much more prominent since his role in Persona 4.

Edit: But of course, as everyone else has said, it's probably also because Atlus doesn't put games on PC. I just have been personally wondering if Sony has been involved with the game ever since the game suddenly got a PS4 port.

This would imply they wouldn't need to moneyhat it at all. Persona has reached unprecendented heights in popularity on the platform. It being on Playstation is a foregone conclusion. Atlus doesn't do simultaneous multiplatform releases for their games. Arc System Works did release the fighting game on 3 platforms, but that was a different development team.

I would bet on a Persona 5 - Platinum releasing on Vita/other platforms down the line.



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Uabit on 23 August 2015

Fail.



Mr.Playstation on 23 August 2015

Why is Sony so evil? They "moneyhat" a ton of games which PC gamers seem to want.



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Michelasso on 23 August 2015
RenCutypoison said:
Namiirei said:

Ehm, the main raison for the hate for pc in japan, it's because it's totally pirated. by everyone.

Some games in japan have better DRM than i know in any occidental games.

I'm not sure japanese pirate more than EUs.

Plus piracy is rarely a loss for the publishers and most of them are fully aware of it.


Piracy is rarely a loss? Are we going from an extreme to the other? Obviously the lost sales due to piracy are much lower than the total value in dollars of the games illegally downloaded. But sure it is also way above zero. If piracy was impossible I woldn't be surprised if at least a 20% of the pirated games turned into sales.