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DMeisterJ. Neither you, I, or probably anyone else has an idea when they'll be expanding. Nintendo may not have released a date, but they'd surely be messing up if they didn't have some target already in mind.

I've already made my point on why sales are a good deal below the 1.8M per month in the other recent thread: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=20404#end
There's a good chance Nintendo isn't going to exceed their goal for this fiscal year by an extreme amount. Instead they'll release much of the "overproduction" at the begining of the next fiscal year to start it off with a bang.



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famousringo said:
DMeisterJ said:
@ sky render

So what's your big excuse? They're stockpiling for the launch in China?

They haven't even put out a date for that, except the next Fiscal year which is between now, and NEXT MARCH. So why praytell would they be stockpiling for a launch that is at least a few months away, and at most a year away. When they haven't even refined how much they'll be producing for the coming fiscal year? If they go to 2.8, then why would stockpiling now be relevant, since they'll be producing so much more? It makes no sense. In a few months, when we actually know the date of the launch in China it will make sense, but not right now.

Also, you don't work for Nintendo, but you live in a fantasy world that Nintendo is producing millions of units per month, and "stockpiling" them so that they can sell them later. Economic states that you can only sell what you put out there. So why would they not sell as much as they can, to put more of a distance between their competition, in order to "stockpile" for a launch that they don't know when is going to happen. You should probably abandon your argument, as the lack of sense that you are making is killing your credibility.

 You know what? You're right. Nintendo doesn't stockpile. They only make about 1.2 million a month, then hit their magical "produce more" button to make four million units in December. Then they quickly turn off the turbo boosters on their assembly lines to maintain the supply shortage that they need to sell Wiis at all.

 http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2008/03/123_20735.html

And I'm sure when they launch the Wii in Korea in May, they'll just hook up another bottle of nitrous and burn another 4 million Wiis out of the factory.


He isn't saying they didnt stockpile. He is saying they aren't doing it right now. If they started now they would have 12-15 mil for christmas.



So you're saying he thinks they DROPPED production spontaneously? That makes no sense. Why would Nintendo, during a shortage, reduce their output of units? That would be insanity on a level that would get the person who made the decision fired.



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PooperScooper said:
famousringo said:
DMeisterJ said:
@ sky render

So what's your big excuse? They're stockpiling for the launch in China?

They haven't even put out a date for that, except the next Fiscal year which is between now, and NEXT MARCH. So why praytell would they be stockpiling for a launch that is at least a few months away, and at most a year away. When they haven't even refined how much they'll be producing for the coming fiscal year? If they go to 2.8, then why would stockpiling now be relevant, since they'll be producing so much more? It makes no sense. In a few months, when we actually know the date of the launch in China it will make sense, but not right now.

Also, you don't work for Nintendo, but you live in a fantasy world that Nintendo is producing millions of units per month, and "stockpiling" them so that they can sell them later. Economic states that you can only sell what you put out there. So why would they not sell as much as they can, to put more of a distance between their competition, in order to "stockpile" for a launch that they don't know when is going to happen. You should probably abandon your argument, as the lack of sense that you are making is killing your credibility.

 You know what? You're right. Nintendo doesn't stockpile. They only make about 1.2 million a month, then hit their magical "produce more" button to make four million units in December. Then they quickly turn off the turbo boosters on their assembly lines to maintain the supply shortage that they need to sell Wiis at all.

 http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2008/03/123_20735.html

And I'm sure when they launch the Wii in Korea in May, they'll just hook up another bottle of nitrous and burn another 4 million Wiis out of the factory.


He isn't saying they didnt stockpile. He is saying they aren't doing it right now. If they started now they would have 12-15 mil for christmas.


Unless of course they burn off some of that stock between now and then. Like during a release of a big game like I heard we got here in North America this week, or during a launch in a new territory, like the one mentioned in the post you qwuoted but obviously didn't fully read.



roadkillers said:
sc94597 said:
roadkillers said:
I watched in some Gametrailers video that Nintendo is making over 1 million Wii's a month. If I remember correctly it was close to 2 million. My question is if they are really making that many consoles a month why is it still sold out? The Wii's arnt even selling one million a month. Are they holding back consoles for some reason? If you wanna see the video of Reggie saying that go and watch GameTrailers TV episode 1.

I think you are wrong there. They are usually selling 1 million+ a month. Also if this wasn't true how are there a total of 22 million wiis sold in around 15 months.


I think those 22 million are mainly because of Launch and Holidays. Look at the last couple of months after December. Hell look at this month so far. The Wii hasnt even sold 200,000 this week. Multiply that by 4 and thats about 800,000 this month.


 that's cause of the stockpiling for the biggest game for Wii (and maybe all the consoles) of the entire year - SSBB

both Ninty and the retailers are holding the Wiis back for the massive launch 

enough said 



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Ok, first off. The 1.8m per month info was put in their quarterly reports, if they are lying about that then they are also breaking the law and some Nintendo execs are heading to jail. So right off the bat we can determine that DMeisterJ doesn't know WTH he is talking about. Or do you think they would go to those lengths? I'd love to hear that crackpot conspiracy theory.

We can guess and speculate all we want about what is being done with the other units but its clear that at least some are being saved up for launches of major releases, some are going towards the Asian launch next FY, etc...For all we know they could be preparing to launch colors and trying to get a stockpile of them ready before launching. We simply don't know what they are doing with the units until they use them, but we do know they are making them because as I mentioned above they cannot fabricate details put into a financial report for their shareholders.

@OP,

The Wii isn't selling out in Japan regularly anymore and many parts of Europe are past sellouts as well (although not all parts of Europe). With that said I want to reiterate the point that there aren't a full 1.8m units reaching retailers every month.

As for the reasons for the short sales recently I really think you have failed to do some basic research based on the numbers you are using. The numbers I'm looking at right now show that this last week was the lowest Wii sales have been all year making it a horrible week to choose and multiply for average sales. In fact the average weekly WW Wii sales from the Week ending Jan 12th until present has been 289k a full 95k less than the week you used to multiply as the average weekly sales. I would say that is a bit of a problem with your analysis.

Now the confusion is probably that Wii supply has been so sporadic that you truly have to look at it over a period of time rather than a single week. A great example of this is that for Feb 9th in the US the Wii sold 216k and the following week it was down at 47k then on March 1st it was back up at 218k. I think its fairly clear these are supply fluctuations and not demand fluctuations.

Also I wanted to note that by my monthly numbers (every week ending in a month is considered part of that month) the Wii sales for Jan were 1.297m and for Feb they were 1.258m, both are a far cry from being less than 1m per month. And since March is a 5 week month and the Wii is already at 570k with just the first 2 weeks I would say its a safe bet that it will break 1m in march as well. So again I really think there was a breakdown in the way you went about your research.



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Sky Render Disroko - both of you need to learn some reading comprehension. I think DMJ will agree with me there. When you get some of that come back. You both assume and put words in peoples mouths. I'm done with you fanatics.



People are going to start thinking we're the same person, Sqrl. Your argument was basically exactly the one I made in 5 or 6 parts, plus one additional bit that I didn't elaborate on, that being that one of the possibilities for the lower number of items on the market vs. items produced is other colors of system being readied.



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Sqrl said:
Ok, first off. The 1.8m per month info was put in their quarterly reports, if they are lying about that then they are also breaking the law and some Nintendo execs are heading to jail. So right off the bat we can determine that DMeisterJ doesn't know WTH he is talking about. Or do you think they would go to those lengths? I'd love to hear that crackpot conspiracy theory.

We can guess and speculate all we want about what is being done with the other units but its clear that at least some are being saved up for launches of major releases, some are going towards the Asian launch next FY, etc...For all we know they could be preparing to launch colors and trying to get a stockpile of them ready before launching. We simply don't know what they are doing with the units until they use them, but we do know they are making them because as I mentioned above they cannot fabricate details put into a financial report for their shareholders.

@OP,

The Wii isn't selling out in Japan regularly anymore and many parts of Europe are past sellouts as well (although not all parts of Europe). With that said I want to reiterate the point that there aren't a full 1.8m units reaching retailers every month.

As for the reasons for the short sales recently I really think you have failed to do some basic research based on the numbers you are using. The numbers I'm looking at right now show that this last week was the lowest Wii sales have been all year making it a horrible week to choose and multiply for average sales. In fact the average weekly WW Wii sales from the Week ending Jan 12th until present has been 289k a full 95k less than the week you used to multiply as the average weekly sales. I would say that is a bit of a problem with your analysis.

Now the confusion is probably that Wii supply has been so sporadic that you truly have to look at it over a period of time rather than a single week. A great example of this is that for Feb 9th in the US the Wii sold 216k and the following week it was down at 47k then on March 1st it was back up at 218k. I think its fairly clear these are supply fluctuations and not demand fluctuations.

Also I wanted to note that by my monthly numbers (every week ending in a month is considered part of that month) the Wii sales for Jan were 1.297m and for Feb they were 1.258m, both are a far cry from being less than 1m per month. And since March is a 5 week month and the Wii is already at 570k with just the first 2 weeks I would say its a safe bet that it will break 1m in march as well. So again I really think there was a breakdown in the way you went about your research.

 well said!!!

u can't cherry pick a certain week to do data on. Otherwise, somebody could choose a month in which the Wii sold 2million plus (December 07) and then say - the Wii production is over 1.8 mill. a month 



You're calling me a fanatic? That's rich... So explaining basic economic principles and pointing out flaws on the arguments of others is an automatic ticket to your negative list, PooperScooper? Because really, that was the only thing I was doing. Any assumption of me doing anything beyond that is overinterpretation on the behalf of the reader.



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