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2008ProchargedGT on 02 August 2015
Heavenly_King said:
2008ProchargedGT said:
Heavenly_King said:
2008ProchargedGT said:

http://gearnuke.com/last-guardian-e3-2015-demo-completed-ps3-2010-new-engine-created-ps4/

The article states they ported over a completed portion of the game from the PS3 ver for the demo, however they built a new engine for the PS4. Do you think this will have an effect on over all GFX or do you think its just a stability thing? IMO this is bad news for the release window if they are saying the're gonna rebuild the game in this new engine and were only able to show old stuff at E3. Discuss

Your title is wrong, in the article it never says about a future use, because they are already using that ¨PS4¨engine.   The graphics wont get better, as Yoshida said in a previous interview.

http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/17/an-intimate-chat-with-sony-playstation-shuhei-yoshida/

Nothing in the title is incorrect.

the engine of the demo is already PS4 engine.

Ported "from" ps3 engine. Again nothing wrong with title



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Heavenly_King on 02 August 2015
2008ProchargedGT said:
Heavenly_King said:
2008ProchargedGT said:
Heavenly_King said:
2008ProchargedGT said:

http://gearnuke.com/last-guardian-e3-2015-demo-completed-ps3-2010-new-engine-created-ps4/

The article states they ported over a completed portion of the game from the PS3 ver for the demo, however they built a new engine for the PS4. Do you think this will have an effect on over all GFX or do you think its just a stability thing? IMO this is bad news for the release window if they are saying the're gonna rebuild the game in this new engine and were only able to show old stuff at E3. Discuss

Your title is wrong, in the article it never says about a future use, because they are already using that ¨PS4¨engine.   The graphics wont get better, as Yoshida said in a previous interview.

http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/17/an-intimate-chat-with-sony-playstation-shuhei-yoshida/

Nothing in the title is incorrect.

the engine of the demo is already PS4 engine.

Ported "from" ps3 engine. Again nothing wrong with title

Your title implies that the PS4 engine is not in use right now.



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bananaking21 on 02 August 2015
JustBeingReal said:
Normchacho said:
JustBeingReal said:
Most likely we'll get a release date by the end of the year, same goes for Horizon: Zero Dawn, probably Dreams and if Morpheus gets a release date and other details then RIGS will probably get one too.
IMO all of the above will be released by June next year, along with Street Fighter 5, Uncharted 4 and Ratchet & Clank.


I agree that it's very unlikely that TLG gets pushed out of 2016, but I think some of your other predictions are a bit off. I expect Horizon to be a late 2016 game simply because of how massive it appears to be and because they haven't shown anything else that's coming for the holidays next year, and I actually think Morpheus will come IN June of next year, along with RIGS. I am expecting Dreams early next year though, and TLG to come out possibly July or August.

Horizon makes sense as a March release, because Guerrilla's last 2 games both released 9 months after they were announced, Bloodborne (another new IP) came the same amount of time after being announced, even though no gameplay was shown at E3 2014. The behind closed doors E3 gameplay was running much worse than Horizon and that's another big game that still came out 9 months after it was announced. Guerrilla have been a bit more vocal than From Software were, they're even showing up at Gamescom or releasing new info then.

Horizon's been in development since 2010 (GG talked about making a new IP in August of that year).

 

 

even if Horizon was planned as a march 2016 release, no way are they releasing it in march now. there is Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank and Street Fighter all slated for spring. its just over kill to release it in march. and i doubt its a summer release. mark my words when i tell you september next year is the earliest we will see this game. 



TheGoldenBoy on 02 August 2015
bananaking21 said:

even if Horizon was planned as a march 2016 release, no way are they releasing it in march now. there is Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank and Street Fighter all slated for spring. its just over kill to release it in march. and i doubt its a summer release. mark my words when i tell you september next year is the earliest we will see this game. 

I suspect Street Fighter V will be March, Ratchet & Clank will be April and Uncharted will be either March or a late June game.

Horizon will probably be their late Summer or early Fall game.



bananaking21 on 02 August 2015
TheGoldenBoy said:
bananaking21 said:

even if Horizon was planned as a march 2016 release, no way are they releasing it in march now. there is Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank and Street Fighter all slated for spring. its just over kill to release it in march. and i doubt its a summer release. mark my words when i tell you september next year is the earliest we will see this game. 

I suspect Street Fighter V will be March, Ratchet & Clank will be April and Uncharted will be either March or a late June game.

Horizon will probably be their late Summer or early Fall game.


i dont see this being a summer release. people seem to forget that even though this has been in development for 4.5 years, only 1.5 of them was with a full team on board. by holiday 2016 they would have had 3 years in dev with a small team (at times very small) and 3 years with a full team. anything less than 3 years with a full team on board for a game this big just seems to little. 



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TallSilhouette on 02 August 2015
twintail said:
I think some of your have misunderstood what Ueda was saying here.

What you are seeing is the PS4 engine. The demo they showed is not running on PS3 but rather it was something that had already been completed on PS3 before and now ported to the PS4 engine, and not something that was built specifically for the PS4 version of the game.

This. They would not reintroduce the game as is if they had a brand new engine on the horizon. After all this wait, they would not give a 2016 window if that wasn't their earnest goal now.

Like another guy said, most of you aren't giving this game's technical prowess enough credit. The large draw and environmental geometry, the destruction and physics, those nice bits of foliage and lighting, and of course the amazingly rendered and animated Trico, it definitely needed some modern horsepower. Trico has to be the most technically impressive creature in a video game. I'm pleased with how the game looks.



JustBeingReal on 02 August 2015
bananaking21 said:
JustBeingReal said:
Normchacho said:
JustBeingReal said:
Most likely we'll get a release date by the end of the year, same goes for Horizon: Zero Dawn, probably Dreams and if Morpheus gets a release date and other details then RIGS will probably get one too.
IMO all of the above will be released by June next year, along with Street Fighter 5, Uncharted 4 and Ratchet & Clank.


I agree that it's very unlikely that TLG gets pushed out of 2016, but I think some of your other predictions are a bit off. I expect Horizon to be a late 2016 game simply because of how massive it appears to be and because they haven't shown anything else that's coming for the holidays next year, and I actually think Morpheus will come IN June of next year, along with RIGS. I am expecting Dreams early next year though, and TLG to come out possibly July or August.

Horizon makes sense as a March release, because Guerrilla's last 2 games both released 9 months after they were announced, Bloodborne (another new IP) came the same amount of time after being announced, even though no gameplay was shown at E3 2014. The behind closed doors E3 gameplay was running much worse than Horizon and that's another big game that still came out 9 months after it was announced. Guerrilla have been a bit more vocal than From Software were, they're even showing up at Gamescom or releasing new info then.

Horizon's been in development since 2010 (GG talked about making a new IP in August of that year).

 

 

even if Horizon was planned as a march 2016 release, no way are they releasing it in march now. there is Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank and Street Fighter all slated for spring. its just over kill to release it in march. and i doubt its a summer release. mark my words when i tell you september next year is the earliest we will see this game. 

 

Well Uncharted could be brought forward into Feb, Ratchet & Clank is most likely April along with the movie, also SFV isn't exactly a big game, it's a fighter it wouldn't hurt either Horizon or SFV for both to release in the same month.

Sony having this many games in winter/spring makes up for them not having much, if anything in the Fall of this year.

Having a game or 2 releasing each month for a fair few months isn't overkill, especially in months that would be pretty light otherwise, hell if we go back to 2007 on PS3 Sony had a bunch of games releasing through August to November that year, if Horizon was that far away it wouldn't have been announced until PSX, as I said Guerrilla's last 2 games were both announced only 9 months before release, same goes Bloodborne, which was another new IP.

It makes sense, Horizon has been in development for a really long time, it's running really well already and Guerrilla are actively marketing the game already, with new footage coming at Gamescom, so it's not like they've faded into darkness to make it seem like it's that far away.