Try again.

"We'll review all the angles," Blandino said on Monday Night Football. "On TV it looked like the Seahawks player intentionally hit the ball. That is a foul. The result of the penalty would give Detroit possession enforced at the spot of the fumble. With half the distance to the goal line, Detroit would have had a first down."

Is that clear enough for you?

Fun Fact #1 : Over half of my losses this season came during Week 2.

Fun Fact #2 : In Week 2 I had two more victories than RolStoppable.

There was never any dispute in our discussion that it was a penalty, or that it should have been caught. I even opened with "I'm fairly sure the refs knew it was a penalty at the time." My comment was taking a stab at why it wasn't called.

You've seen the play in question. Set aside everything but the play itself. Do you believe there was any possibility of the Lions recovering the ball before it went out of bounds?

That's not how this penalty works, sorry.  You're also conveniently forgetting that the normal tactic on a fumble?  Pick up the fuckin ball and run the other way.  But, the seahawks didn't want to risk a safety.  So, instead, intentionally batted the ball out of the endzone (Wrights actual words, btw).  That's illegal.  May not like the rule, but it's the rule. 

PS. Wright also said he didn't know about the rule.  Ignorance of what is and is not permissible, is not a defense.

That's....actually not the normal tactic on a fumble in the end zone, especially a game winning fumble. We're also still not discussing whether it was a penalty or not. From the looks of it, we're not actually discussing anything at all!!!

Okay, last post from me on the subject.

I, noname2200, based solely upon my personal knowledge unless otherwise stated to be upon information and belief, hereby hazard, conjecture, guess, divine, and surmise that the referees in the game of the Detroit Lions vs. the Seattle Seahawks, which took place on October 5, 2015, in the year of our Lord 2015, on or about the fifty-eighth (58) minute mark of the game, deliberately chose not to call a penalty on a penalty play because the referees assumed, believed, figured, and decided that there was no realistic outcome of the play which would not result in the Seattle Seahawks immediately possessing the football, including but not limited to any action or inaction on the part of a eligible Seattle Seahawks and/or Detroit Lions player. The above statement is not an endorsement, affirmation, advocation, or ratification of that belief. It is not intended, and should not reasonably be interpreted as, an agreement with the morals, ethics, legality, or propriety of that stance, if so intended. Nor is it intended as an absolute statement of fact, recordation of actual fact, or affirmative assertion that any of the above events occurred or did not occur.

I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct.

October 6, 2015

noname2200

Defendant (?)

The NFL needs to simplify those stupid rules.

Make it simple : if a player loses the ball, and nobody recovers it until it goes out of bounds, it stays in possession of the team that lost it. If the ball goes into the end zone, and the team on offense recovers it : touchdown. If the ball goes into the end zone, and the defense recovers it : touchback. If the ball goes into and OUT of the end zone, the ball should be placed at the spot of the fumble on the offense. Simple.

I remember the rationale of this rule, because some team (the Raiders?) were abusing the previous rule where they would fumble the ball forward on purpose. Given the extreme risk in fumbling, I don't think this would really be a risk in the modern NFL, but you could have an amendment where an unforced fumble results in a penalty (eg; nobody touches the guy, he just loses the ball like a numpty).

Brady's under oath testimony meant nothing to most people, your faux under oath testimony doesn't either ;)

^^ You are correct. The defense recovering the ball and going down in the end zone is a touchback.

It wouldn't, I was typing quickly and not thinking :D