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Out of the 38 Million Sellers (aprox) that the Ps4 has, 22 of them are rated Mature.

 

Out of the 13 Million Sellers (aprox) that the Wii U has, 0 of them are rated Mature.

 

Nintendo fans dont like/buy Mature games, thats a fact. The best selling 3rd party franchises are mostly Mature.



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Miyamotoo said:
Ruler said:
I think it wouldnt be even stronger than the wiiu, it would be a little bit weaker

That depends of what is, if it is a home console definitely much more stronger than Wii U, if it is a some hybrid device probably little stronger than WiiU, if it is a handheld probably weaker than Wii U.

Even the homeconsole would be weaker, remember nintendo wants to do profits they have no online subscription to make money



AEGRO said:

Out of the 38 Million Sellers (aprox) that the Ps4 has, 22 of them are rated Mature.

 

Out of the 13 Million Sellers (aprox) that the Wii U has, 0 of them are rated Mature.

 

Nintendo fans dont like/buy Mature games, thats a fact. The best selling 3rd party franchises are mostly Mature.


I'm actually not even sure Nintendo has 15 "M-rated" million sellers in the last 15 years, lol. 

Resident Evil 0, Resident Evil REMake, RE4, RE4 Wii Edition, RE Umbrella Chronciles, RE Darkside Chronicles, three COD games I think. Not sure what else there is. And I suspect some of these games are fairly overtracked. 

Last M-rated game (million seller) that Nintendo published or was at least involved with was probably Perfect Dark, which is now 15 years old. 



sc94597 said:
AlfredoTurkey said:


The PS4 launched in 2013 and was profitable from day one so I think it could easily be more powerful than PS4 if it released in 2017. 

The PS4 released at $400. In 2016/2017 it will probably retail for more that $200 (the guideline stipulated by the OP.) With inflation, this difference is slightly more pronounced. I can't see them making a profitable console for $200 that is more powerful than the PS4 in 2016/2017.


Just becuase PS4 will probably be more than $200.00 doesn't mean it will cost more than that in 2017. I think if Nintendo WANTED to release something that beefy they could and still make money off the thing. 

I think it will all hinder on the controller. Standard controller will help alot with cost etc.



AMD could give Nintendo a GPU that outperforms the PS4 considerably probably even in $200 envelope (but $250 for sure). The PS4 GPU is old hat now, it's a 2012 component that quite honestly wasn't even bleeding edge for its time.

The bigger question is that's something Nintendo likely doesn't even want in the first place. That's not a direction they are interested in.



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Ruler said:
Miyamotoo said:

That depends of what is, if it is a home console definitely much more stronger than Wii U, if it is a some hybrid device probably little stronger than WiiU, if it is a handheld probably weaker than Wii U.

Even the homeconsole would be weaker, remember nintendo wants to do profits they have no online subscription to make money

Of Course Nintendo wants to make profit (remember Nintendo even with Wii U make profit), that doesnt mean that next home console need to be weaker than Wii U.



AlfredoTurkey said:
sc94597 said:

The PS4 released at $400. In 2016/2017 it will probably retail for more that $200 (the guideline stipulated by the OP.) With inflation, this difference is slightly more pronounced. I can't see them making a profitable console for $200 that is more powerful than the PS4 in 2016/2017.


Just becuase PS4 will probably be more than $200.00 doesn't mean it will cost more than that in 2017. I think if Nintendo WANTED to release something that beefy they could and still make money off the thing. 

I think it will all hinder on the controller. Standard controller will help alot with cost etc.

Unless they are going for 14nm with AMD's new CPU generation, it does mean that. Low-end GPU prices per performance have remained quite stagnant as well (and that is what they'd be getting with a $200 platform.) Furthermore, I expect Nintendo to put larger flash memory/SSD in their next platform, which will make it more costly than a PS4 in that area (assuming Nintendo goes for something 160-240 GB.)

@Bolded Sure it's possible, but not likely. If it is late 2017 I can see it happening. Now if they boosted their budget to $250 - $300, they could build a console significantly more powerful than the PS4 (because then they leave the cost vs. performance plateau that is the <$100 (retail) GPU range.)



Miyamotoo said:
Ruler said:
Miyamotoo said:

That depends of what is, if it is a home console definitely much more stronger than Wii U, if it is a some hybrid device probably little stronger than WiiU, if it is a handheld probably weaker than Wii U.

Even the homeconsole would be weaker, remember nintendo wants to do profits they have no online subscription to make money

Of Course Nintendo wants to make profit (remember Nintendo even with Wii U make profit), that doesnt mean that next home console need to be weaker than Wii U.

Yes it will be weaker alone by the fact that they wont use blueray