I really think we're both missing something out of the other guy's replies. 

And don't say that Superman is weak if we ignore post 1992 stuff. Silver Age Superman is still one of the most ridiculous things in fiction.

I really think we're both missing something out of the other guy's replies. 

And don't say that Superman is weak if we ignore post 1992 stuff. Silver Age Superman is still one of the most ridiculous things in fiction.

I have never, once, said Superman was weak lol.  Not once.  I have openly admitted however, that my knowledge of Superman is quite limited (Death of Superman still is one of my favorite collectives of comics, but probably the last I read).  This particular thought expirement was quite a bit more challenging than the utter farce that is Batman vs Superman, for example. 

I will admit that when I saw Goku vs Superman 2, I had assumed there was another thread, and this was somehow a continuation of it. lol.  Not that there's literally a 2nd Superman (or a new Iteration etc..).  For example, Superman Prime goes over my head, never new it existed until people kept referencing it in this thread.

But, I am quite familiar with Goku, and view him kinda like Superman, an all powerful entity who no matter what happens, wins in the end.  Because no matter what happens, he always wins in the end.  What happens when you have 2 individuals like that, clash?  It's like the immovable object vs the unstoppable force.

What would happen is Superman might win the first encounter (or not?), then Goku would go into a hyperbollic time chamber, train for decades, and come out a billion times stronger, and win.  Or Goku wins the first encounter, and Superman goes off on some soul searching or whatever, and comes back more confident in himself.  Though, the problem there is that this usually occurs when Superman's fighting something evil...Goku, as I said, is not evil.  And Superman's usually a very good judge of character.  So why would he even be involved in a fight to the death w/ a person who's just as good natured as he is, if not more?  Do you think Superman would wish Zod back, as a good person?  Probably not.  Goku's good to the point of utter naivete.  The question doesn't really make sense, and the answer is more difficult than just 'who's more powerful'.

P.s > A small addendum: I have watched EVERY single DBZ related piece of animation that was official - and even the God awful The secret plan to destroy the Saiyans -. I somehow always get roped into these discussions of Goku vs Superman, though I know by myself that they make zero sense in the end and it's just an exercise in patience for everyone involved. You don't get out of this because you've been proven wrong, or proved your point beyond any reasonable doubt, but rather because you don't feel like writing another damn word on the subject. 

I have never, once, said Superman was weak lol.  Not once.  I have openly admitted however, that my knowledge of Superman is quite limited (Death of Superman still is one of my favorite collectives of comics, but probably the last I read).  This particular thought expirement was quite a bit more challenging than the utter farce that is Batman vs Superman, for example. 

I will admit that when I saw Goku vs Superman 2, I had assumed there was another thread, and this was somehow a continuation of it. lol.  Not that there's literally a 2nd Superman (or a new Iteration etc..).  For example, Superman Prime goes over my head, never new it existed until people kept referencing it in this thread.

But, I am quite familiar with Goku, and view him kinda like Superman, an all powerful entity who no matter what happens, wins in the end.  Because no matter what happens, he always wins in the end.  What happens when you have 2 individuals like that, clash?  It's like the immovable object vs the unstoppable force.

What would happen is Superman might win the first encounter (or not?), then Goku would go into a hyperbollic time chamber, train for decades, and come out a billion times stronger, and win.  Or Goku wins the first encounter, and Superman goes off on some soul searching or whatever, and comes back more confident in himself.  Though, the problem there is that this usually occurs when Superman's fighting something evil...Goku, as I said, is not evil.  And Superman's usually a very good judge of character.  So why would he even be involved in a fight to the death w/ a person who's just as good natured as he is, if not more?  Do you think Superman would wish Zod back, as a good person?  Probably not.  Goku's good to the point of utter naivete.  The question doesn't really make sense, and the answer is more difficult than just 'who's more powerful'.

But Goku doesn't akways win, the people of Earth do (metaphorically obviously, usually it's a Saiyan, but not always Goku). Goku didn't defeat Radits, he was not powerful enough. Goku also did not defeat Perfect Cell, Gohan did. He's been killed several times for not being powerful enough.

And always comes back (Dunno, in my opinion that's winning...the Universe he exists in always conspires to make it so), and is without a doubt the most powerful by the end of the series.   Are we now going to selectively choose which Goku, Superman faces?  How is that fair?

OH.

MY.

GOD!

Can you imagine what he'll be capable of once he reaches GREEN HAIR LEVEL?!

He still has been actually dead. Superman has not.

*Edit* And proof that Goku doesn't always win, and the fact that he has severely been outmatched before. Him being "resurrected" does not take away the fact that he didn't beat Raddits or Cell. There is absolutely no way he could beat Superman. Even when Superman was presumed "dead" he still killed Doomsday.