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Pavolink on 20 July 2015
Captain_Yuri said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlLvCLP2h84

Around 3:03:10

"Arrive Exclusively for the wiiU in 2015"

Granted they already broke one promise by delaying it but delays happen to almost every major 3d Zelda game but they did still say "Exclusively" which is the samething as "Only For"


Doesn't matter. The last statement about Zelda was that fans should not worry as Zelda HD will arrive for Wii U, but nothing about exclusively. They could have denied the NX version and rather than doing that guaranted a Wii U version.

Edit: “We’re here to talk about Star Fox but Zelda is still coming to Wii U. My thing with E3 is that we always focus on what’s coming out in the immediate future. We have some really great Zelda footage and, at some point we will be showing that off, but not today.”

http://nintendoeverything.com/miyamoto-says-zelda-is-still-coming-to-wii-u-great-footage-to-show-at-a-later-date/

 

Not that this matters as TP proved his lies.

"We're here to talk about Star Fox but Zelda is still coming to Wii U. My thing with E3 is that we always focus on what's coming out in the immediate future. We have some really great Zelda footage and, at some point we will be showing that off, but not today." - See more at: http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/miyamoto-confirms-zelda-u-is-still-coming-to-the-wii-u-has-footage-to-show#.Va0oyrer58c
"We're here to talk about Star Fox but Zelda is still coming to Wii U. My thing with E3 is that we always focus on what's coming out in the immediate future. We have some really great Zelda footage and, at some point we will be showing that off, but not today." - See more at: http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/miyamoto-confirms-zelda-u-is-still-coming-to-the-wii-u-has-footage-to-show#.Va0oyrer58c
"We're here to talk about Star Fox but Zelda is still coming to Wii U. My thing with E3 is that we always focus on what's coming out in the immediate future. We have some really great Zelda footage and, at some point we will be showing that off, but not today." - See more at: http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/miyamoto-confirms-zelda-u-is-still-coming-to-the-wii-u-has-footage-to-show#.Va0oyrer58c
"We're here to talk about Star Fox but Zelda is still coming to Wii U. My thing with E3 is that we always focus on what's coming out in the immediate future. We have some really great Zelda footage and, at some point we will be showing that off, but not today." - See more at: http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/miyamoto-confirms-zelda-u-is-still-coming-to-the-wii-u-has-footage-to-show#.Va0oyrer58c


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Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 20 July 2015
Pavolink said:
Captain_Yuri said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlLvCLP2h84

Around 3:03:10

"Arrive Exclusively for the wiiU in 2015"

Granted they already broke one promise by delaying it but delays happen to almost every major 3d Zelda game but they did still say "Exclusively" which is the samething as "Only For"


Doesn't matter. The last statement about Zelda was that fans should not worry as Zelda HD will arrive for Wii U, but nothing about exclusively. They could have denied the NX version and rather than doing that guaranted a Wii U version.

Yea but they also couldn't have mentioned it cause they could have thought that it was already implied by their previous statements... But at the end of the day... They said exclusively previously... If when next year comes around and they announce the NX and have Zelda U as a launch title... Welp, if its a console, then I won't be bothering to buy it at launch at all (and etc that I already said before). And same goes for all future Nintendo consoles

If they really think they can devalue my investments like that and still keep me as a loyal customer, then they have another thing coming



                  

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burninmylight on 20 July 2015
Miyamotoo said:
Untamoi said:


You forget that consoles are all about business and Wii U has failed completely. Zelda is quite big franchise (Nintendo has several bigger franchises though) but not enough to make Wii U a success. Remember, Mario Kart is several times bigger franchise and even that wasn't enough. The only way Nintendo could remain on consoles is to make new console soon and abandon Wii U. If they don't release NX soon, they would have to leave consoles completely. If there are no game or console sales, it is insane to continue making losses. It doesn't matter at all whether you like it or not.

Sure, they probably will release Zelda U on Wii U but it will probably ported to NX.

Actually Nintendo is now making profit, last year they have $350m profit (they expecting similar profit for this year too), software is selling very well, but yes hardware sales of 3DS and Wii U are dropping and they need new hardware in 2016/2017.

Wii U hardware sales were up 20 percent from last year for the first quarter of the year, and 3DS sales were up 80 percent:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/reply.php?id=206099&quote=7436307



burninmylight on 20 July 2015
TomaTito said:
theARTIST0017 said:

Hello Nintendo fans. I've never been so unexcited and unethusiastic to be a Nintendo fan as I am now. I've owned practically every Nintendo console except for the Wii U and I am older and have less time to play games but one thing is true: Nintendo isn't the same. 

That's the reason why I have a WiiU, less time to play means I can enjoy the few gems that are released.

I'd be nice to have floods of 3rd party support, but I know I'd ignore quite a few of them.


I'm with you guys. When I was younger, I had tons of time, but no money. Now, I have the money, but not the time or energy. I can't even keep up with Nintendo's first party output on the 3DS and Wii U alone, let alone third party. I guess that's why I'm content with the third party support that we do have.



Miyamotoo on 20 July 2015
traveler72 said:
Miyamotoo said:

It not just june, july, august too...Mario Kart with Smash Bros. had very influence on sales on holiday season. With price cut at holiday season Wii U maybe could perform little better than last year, but I think it will somewhere on pair with last year.

With a pricecut it will perform much better than last year. without it it will still perform at least a little better. oh, how can you talk about unknown july/august sales? There shouldn't be much if any difference in those two months. Not to mention september and october that should be considerably up after Mario Maker.

I hope you are right.

Because last year we had promotion of free game with Mario Kart in june, july and august and that was very big push for people to buy Mario Kart bundle. Nintendo last year in 1Q (april, may and june) had shipment of 0.51m on Wii U consoles, this year will probably around 350-400k. Similar difference will probably be for Q2.

So you think Mario Maker will have better impact on sale in holiday season than Mario Kart and Smash Bros. together!? Like I wrote even with price cut of $50 in september-october i can't Wii U have significal YOY.



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Miyamotoo on 20 July 2015
traveler72 said:
Helloplite said:
It's clear to me that the OP has not been around gaming for long. If he had, he'd have known that the same 'critique' has been around since the days of N64.

1. No third party support
2. Sales

Have been the two main criticisms since late 90s. There is no other way around this: There is some truth to this, but this is the path Nintendo has been taking for well over two decades now. So why are we still coming up with the same discussion topics? Wii had a couple of gems, but for the most part was a horrible console. Wii U is even worse.

Sounds like you didn't play many wii games.

Sounds he didnt play Wii U games too.



Miyamotoo on 20 July 2015
Captain_Yuri said:
Miyamotoo said:
Captain_Yuri said:

I didn't forget anything cause I don't care about the whole business aspect cause them doing bad with the wiiU hardware sales doesn't affect me as a customer... I don't have investments in Nintendo's stock so why should I care whether or not the wiiU is failing in sales? What I do care about is the promises they made and the games that I will get that can only be played on the wiiU cause that is why I bought it in the first place. If they can't keep those promises, then I have no confidence in them going forward..

So, if they want me to remain a loyal customer, they have to deliver everything they promised including the fact that they said "Zelda Only on WiiU." Now they can go ahead and port it to the NX at a later time, perhaps a year or two later, then thats fine but if it comes out on both at the sametime, that means that Nintendo didn't deliver on everything they promised hence why they will lose me as a loyal customer. Not to say I won't buy the NX if its a console but it sure wont be at launch and I will be a lot more tempted to go the hacking route than the supporting route

Oh and the whole "they will leave consoles completely if they don't launch the NX soon" is pretty nonsense at best considering how the company is making profit and they are taking various actions such as making deals with theme parks, mobile and getting more amiibos and etc to make even more profit going forward... And not to mention how much they already have in the bank

I don't recall they said that, but they certainly say Zelda for Wii U, but not only.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlLvCLP2h84

Around 3:03:10

"Arrive Exclusively for the wiiU in 2015"

Granted they already broke one promise by delaying it but delays happen to almost every major 3d Zelda game but they did still say "Exclusively" which is the samething as "Only For"

I miss that part, but you really dont pay big attention on what Reggie saying, he saying lots of stuffs and some of them are just PR talk or his personal opinion. Only words that had wait we're from Iwata and Miyamoto.

I still dont see why is that so big deal even if Zelda U will be ported to NX, Wii U owners will still playet.



Miyamotoo on 20 July 2015
burninmylight said:
Miyamotoo said:
Untamoi said:


You forget that consoles are all about business and Wii U has failed completely. Zelda is quite big franchise (Nintendo has several bigger franchises though) but not enough to make Wii U a success. Remember, Mario Kart is several times bigger franchise and even that wasn't enough. The only way Nintendo could remain on consoles is to make new console soon and abandon Wii U. If they don't release NX soon, they would have to leave consoles completely. If there are no game or console sales, it is insane to continue making losses. It doesn't matter at all whether you like it or not.

Sure, they probably will release Zelda U on Wii U but it will probably ported to NX.

Actually Nintendo is now making profit, last year they have $350m profit (they expecting similar profit for this year too), software is selling very well, but yes hardware sales of 3DS and Wii U are dropping and they need new hardware in 2016/2017.

Wii U hardware sales were up 20 percent from last year for the first quarter of the year, and 3DS sales were up 80 percent:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/reply.php?id=206099"e=7436307

You probably referring to Nintendo NPD statement, true is that 20% YOY for combined Wii U and 3DS hardware, and we know that we have launch of New 3DS so Wii U alone numbers are down. Last June Wii U was sold 140k in US, this 70k.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/07/splatoon_splats_top_10_npd_position_in_june_as_hardware_momentum_stays_positive



Miyamotoo on 20 July 2015
Captain_Yuri said:
CWegzz said:
Captain_Yuri said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlLvCLP2h84

Around 3:03:10

"Arrive Exclusively for the wiiU in 2015"

Granted they already broke one promise by delaying it but delays happen to almost every major 3d Zelda game but they did still say "Exclusively" which is the samething as "Only For"


Nintendo also said twilight princess was going exclusively for the GameCube for quite awhile and we all know how that ended.  I'm thinking the same scenario is going to happen with Zelda u.  They broke their promise with Twilight princess so I don't see why they're not going to do it again.

Well with Twilight Princess, they already had a dedicated Zelda game for the Gamecube which was Wind Waker and they also have a dedicated Zelda game for the wii which was Skyward Sword. In every console that Nintendo ever made (Except VB but that was a DoA), they had at least one Zelda game that was dedicated to that specific console but in the case of wiiU... They do not... And that is the big difference.

But I am not saying that they won't pull a TP, I am saying that if they do, they will lose me as a loyal customer. But in terms of why they might not, it is cause the wiiU doesn't have its own exclusive zelda game.

Why needs to have own exclusive Zelda game!? Is much important to have new Zelda game.



Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 20 July 2015
Miyamotoo said:
Captain_Yuri said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlLvCLP2h84

Around 3:03:10

"Arrive Exclusively for the wiiU in 2015"

Granted they already broke one promise by delaying it but delays happen to almost every major 3d Zelda game but they did still say "Exclusively" which is the samething as "Only For"

I miss that part, but you really dont pay big attention on what Reggie saying, he saying lots of stuffs and some of them are just PR talk or his personal opinion. Only words that had wait we're from Iwata and Miyamoto.

I still dont see why is that so bi deal even if Zelda U will be ported to NX, Wii U owners will still playet.

Now Now, lets not cherry pick our way out of this... Reggie knows as much as to what is going on in Nintendo as much as everyone else that work in there and its not like Miyamoto and others havn't said some facepalm worthy things in the past

And it is a big deal cause it goes back to why on earth did I buy a wiiU if the game can be played else where? Specially if the NX gets a better experience? I buy Nintendo consoles for at least 4 games that can't be played anywhere else including other Nintendo platforms (Within a reasonable timeframe that is):
1) 3d Mario 2) Mario Kart 3) Smash Bros 4) Zelda.

If I can play any of those games in any other platform, it significantly devalues my purchase.. Its not about just being able to play it, its about having the best experience possible only on the specific console. Heck if they do pull off a TP, then the wiiU version will be released 1 month later than the NX version cause the GC version was released 1 month later than the Wii version (In NA)

So the point is if I can just play it on the NX... Why did I spend $350 on the wiiU? And it makes me less confident in the company going forward cause then it would mean that they will only release key games (exclusively or not) only if the console has sold very well and I have no way of knowing which games are guaranteed to come when I purchase their console... Even if they publicly state it... Where as if they release it only on the wiiU and port it to NX a couple of years later, I will know that I will at least get big 4 exclusively on ______ Nintendo console regardless of sales



                  

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