Final-Fan said:
fkusumot said:
Final-Fan said:
It looks to me like Republican America has a hard-on for gay-bashing. And libertarians are helping to stroke it. |
That's odd. Why would libertarians be against homosexuality? Does libertarianism have a moral code? And if it does, what is it's philosophical underpinning? |
No, you and rocketpig are correct. I said that in in connection with my conversation with DKII and perhaps I overreached.
I was talking about how strange it is to me that the Libertarian movement is so cozy with the Republican Party, and NOT the Democratic Party (AFAIK) because it seems to me that it has equal areas of virulent disagreement and enthusiastic agreement with both (civil liberties/secularism, deregulation/privatization/etc.).
DKII said it was because the Republican desire to undercut civil liberties was not in any danger of succeeding, and although the past eight years has mountains of evidence to the contrary the anti-gay initiatives are what first came to mind.
Can you answer the question I posed earlier, rocketpig? Why do libertarians seem to be so much cozier with Republicans, with whom they partially agree (market deregulation/privatization/etc.) and partially disagree (civil liberties/secularism), than with Democrats, with whom they also partially agree (civil liberties/secularism) and partially disagree (market regulation/gov't programs/etc.) If anyone here can answer it, you probably can. |
The reason why the anti-gay legislation has been passed lately is because of the Democrats, not Libertarians. Many Democrats are side-by-side with the Republican fundamentalists and help pass bans on gay marriage and whatnot. You would think that the Democratic party would stand up for homosexual rights but in many situations, that just isn't the case. Some do, many others do not.
I think the reason why Libertarians vote more often with the Republican party are two-fold:
1. Many Libertarians are actually Republicans who are fed up with religion taking over the party. Almost every Libertarian I know (and I know four or five personally) were former members of the Republican party but the Religious Right drove them to Libertarianism.
2. Many Libertarians are really focused on the economy and government size. Traditionally, so are Republicans, excepting that fucking clown shoe we have in office right now. It's a choice of lesser evils. You can focus on social freedoms or a smaller government. Since the very core of the Libertarian heart is about stripping the government of power and giving some of it back to the states, Libertarians generally side with the Republican party more often than not. If the Republican party was to continue down the path set by Asshat Junior, that could change. Luckily, it appears that they're going down the road with McCain, a man whose views are much more traditionally Republican (which is why I like him so much).
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