both project guard and project giant robot are intended to be retail games, not just tech demos, they are games with anticipated releases, as such they are games that have been shown early before the titles actual release.

3 years is a considerable amount of time, and the thing is, were not "comparing with sony" were assessing whether what reggie said was true or not, which is relative to nintendo not anyone else.

All of these games contradict his statement, fair enough zelda u is down to delays but then, if you're going to give special allowances for games releasing a certain time after they were initially shown on the strengths of delays alone, most games on other systems with expansive time periods between reveal and release would qualify for this allowance too.

you do understand reggie did not not beleive what he was saying right?  Don t try to defend his words when, if he was being intellectually honest he would not defend them himself-  Iwata even said at the stockholders meeting that they will reveal games further away when it suits their purpose and reveal games on a shorter time frame when it suits their purpose-  which is what any of the console makers will do-  the difference is they will not act like they don t and take a jab at the other guys for doing the same thing

Totally disagree with the bolded, a Tech Demo is just that, a demonstration of a machine's capabilities otherwise such things are called trailers if that is a game in development and intended for release at a later date. Did most of us salivate and wish that was what the next Zelda would look like ... well yes.  I for one thought they were very up front about it just being a tech demo and not what was in development for the next instillation in the Zelda series.


That aside I think Reggie is kind of an ass. The only points he really scores in my book are for not always taking himself too seriously.

But surely you see that 2 years is still a sizeable duration between a games reveal and its release, regardless of who is actually making it.

Lets take TLG for an example here, it's expected next year, the game was rebuilt from scratch in 2014 with an expected 2016 release, the original title for ps3 never saw the light of day, and was essentially a studio tech demo since the game never ran at a playable state.

This puts it directly in line with the Zelda tech demo from 2012, that never saw the light of day and they ended up making a new zelda wiiu title instead, the only difference here is that they stuck much closer to the original vision with TLG.

I'm not saying that Sony don't have their fair share of games shown well in advance of actually releasing, or Microsoft too for that matter, but rather, all three companies do it when it suits them, so Reggies comment was inaccurate.

As for Binarys point, when people saw a fleshed out Zelda running on WiiU at the hardware reveal, can you really blame potential buyers from assuming that was a taste of games soon to come for the system?, it's essentially a reveal in itself, even if presented as a tech demo, the same happened with the PlayStation 3, everyone made it clear that the FF7 tech demo was exactly that, a tech demo, but people in their hundreds of thousands took that as proof that a FF7 title would eventually appear on the system, in effect making it as much of a game reveal as if it were really an actual game to be released.

if it goes without saying, what does it mean when it is said? Without saying "best for us", It was a judgement staitment of we're not anouncing a metriod game now becuase it's not best to tell you now, like other companies do with their games.

even ShenueIII and FFVII remake will probably be out in less than the 5,6 years he said. Had he said a much shorter timeframe he'd have gotten less flack.

If we werer to put the 5,6 years just in the context of Metriod does that mean the next one is that far away? because I think there are very few games that ever have that long of a developement cycle planned, that's a console generation right there.

People bash him now because of the negative e3. It was the same when the Wii U was launched and Nintendo got a lot of crit.

They need to get their E3's done right because the after shock of a poor E3 show is a huge dose of negativity and ridiculously bad interpretations of perfectly reasonable statements.

There is a lot of concern right now that there will be very little in 2016 for Wii U. They should have addressed that at the E3. I'm sure the bulk of the online hate is fed by non-Wii U owners though. Console war nonsense and stuff.

I don't think of it as no reason. Some people might be more harsh with him from the combination of him managing to piss off both his fans as well as the competion for what he said.

TLG went through develoment hell and in that case as well as FFXV he's stll wrong. they are over 6 year from when first shown and not out yet :P KH3 is another that might get close to that.

He said one way is best, that leaves the way that other companies do it as not best. There was no qualifier "for Nintendo" It's very much in his right to say such a thing but backlash from fans of competitors is a reasonable and expectable responce. Though that backlash means little since fans of the competions weren't likely to buy what he's selling anyway. Pissing off the Nintendo fans was the bigger issue.

http://www.develop-online.net/news/metroid-prime-4-not-coming-to-wii-u/0208036

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-17-next-proper-metroid-prime-would-likely-now-be-on-nx

I wish we knew exactly what kind of power Reggie has ... Sorry Pabid I don't care for the guy, never really have. If he has real power over North American marketing and he thought what little marketing the Wii U got in the beginning was enough then I like him even less. I figure though he is little more than the mouthpiece to the west.

This news say Metroid Prime mainline game, but what about the games that aren't Prime? Super, Fusion, Zero Mission.

Maybe Nintendo is making a Metroid game, just not a Prime one.