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Thatmax on 14 March 2008

Oh yeah and most things that are "nice" can be considered addictive, for example sugar, a few years ago sugar was declared an addictive substance.



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iron_megalith on 14 March 2008
luinil said:
Euphoria14 said:
luinil said:
Weed is a gateway drug. Once you start that you may find yourself looking to experiment more with other harder drugs. In this respect I do not believe it is wise to start anything that can be an addiction to something that can be so harmful. Smoking the weed is more toxic than cigarettes, or so I have heard from a doctor.

There are too many problems out there for this to be the number one issue for me though. I don't care what people do in the privacy of their own homes, but for God's sake keep the children away from it!

Been smoking marijuana for 1 1/2 years now, I have a friend who smoked since the age of 14 and he is 19 now. I also have a few friends at work (well... more than a few, lol) who smoke regularly. None of us have went beyond Marijuana.

My girlfriend never used to smoke, she was mainly a drinker and before we met she got herself mixed up in Extacy as well as shrooms.

The gateway excuse is just that... an excuse to keep it illegalized. You hear about people getting violent when drunk. I am a very happy fellow when high.

I have also heard the ridiculous "1 joint is the equivalent of 20 cigarettes"... yeah... ok. What is wrong with something naturally grown? Why is it legal to have tobacco companies add cancer causing chemicals to their product among many others just to insure you stay addicted to their drug? At least I won't go through physical withdrawal from lack of marijuana.I just went 4 days without because of y vertigo and it did not bother me in the least. How is that for a 1 1/2 year smoker? Can a 1 1/2 year frequent drinker and/or 1 1/2 year frequent cigarette smoker do that?

Not without medical help on majority of cases. I have been trying for years to get my Mother to stop drinking and smoking, even more now because of my Sister's baby coming along in 2 weeks. I stopped smoking pot for now because of this with no problem. No matter what we do, we can not get my Mother off the alcohol and cigarettes. Instead she uses the good old "stress from work" excuse.

Sad huh?


I am not going to argue this as I do not know the points for or against it. I simply know that I will not do it simply because it is not for me. Again, I don't care what you do in private, so long as it is responsible and not causing harm to anyone else. If you feel it should be legalized go for it, but I will be there to counter you. I believe that it does more harm than good, at this time. I could be persuaded but I doubt it. It is sad that your mom is addicted to those drugs, that's alcohol and tobacco are, and cannot/will not stop.

I hope you can get through to her soon. The reason I won't use the stuff is not because I am better or worse than anybody, but because I think that it degrades the culture of America. The more people that are "high" the more stupid decisions they will make, imho. We already have enough idiots running around thinking they are brilliant.


 You've took the words right out of my mind. Why legalize it when it can wreck so much lives? Plus, is it a necessity? I know people who have lived for more than 50 years and doesn't even know/use marijuana. These stuff, same with alcohol only tries to lift the mood up. I can say people who really take these things are problematic. The sad part in reality is, problems never go away once you never solve them.



jake_the_fake1 on 14 March 2008
Thatmax said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Thatmax said:
Im guessing you have never tied it Jake? take a couple a tokes and then see if u wanna preach to us! :)

Why suggest such a retarded thing? o.0


Im suggesting this because you are knocking something you have never tried before, you are saying that you are endangering lives by smoking weed, you are taking the stereotypical stoned guy who doesnt know what the hell is going on and believing that its always like that, its not like alcohol, you still feel in control, your mind doesnt start telling you to go and drive cars, you still know whats a bad idea etc.

And even though i dont approve of stoned driving a test on this tv programme showed that on average youare a more careful driver when stoned, this is because they are more attentive and kind of paranoid about crashing etc.


 that's like saying that you can't critise a a killer till you killed some one your self, but we all know thats wrong because that's how we've been tought, this is the same thing with drug, we've been tought that they are bad and that the only good drugs are those that are for medicinal purposes.

I suppose many will now say that marijuana has medicinal properties and I'd agree with you, however, those properties should be put in a pill and offered to those that need it rather than trying to legitimise smoking marijuana.



ChronotriggerJM on 14 March 2008

I've heard (anecdotal, I don't know the true facts) that one joint is approximately 4 times worse than 1 cigarette, but I've known people that smoke 2 packs of cigarettes a day o.O; which is like 40 cigarettes, I don't know anyone who's smoked 10 joints in a day, maybe 1 or 2, but not 10. If that ratio is true thats a pretty awesome figure lol.



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Euphoria14 on 14 March 2008

You know, it is odd but people seem to understand marijuana a little more when they grow up.

I also did not realize that when I sent him the study on driving deaths in Australia based on Alcohol and various other drugs, he is indeed from Australia, yet he LOL'd at the link? Wow.

Now that is either denial or simply not knowing what the heck he is talking about.



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Rugger08 on 14 March 2008

I have to admit I haven't read the all the post, so sorry if someone else has said it:

If we legalize marijuana then it can be regulated and sold by companies who will make a profit and get taxed by the government. Positive effects:

1) No Marijuana drug dealers on the street(less drug enforcement costs and crime)

2) More Tax dollars and legitimate jobs in the U.S.

3) It won't be laced by other drugs so it will be safer for consumers

All in all, I think it would be good for the country.



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iron_megalith on 14 March 2008
Thatmax said:
Oh yeah and most things that are "nice" can be considered addictive, for example sugar, a few years ago sugar was declared an addictive substance.

 You know what everything can be addictive. Heck even games are. The question is:

 

ARE YOU SANE ENOUGH TO KNOW HOW TO STOP?



Euphoria14 on 14 March 2008

^^ They do not care, they would rather us use our funds on stupid stuff like Steroids in Baseball.



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jake_the_fake1 on 14 March 2008
Thatmax said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Euphoria14 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Euphoria14 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Euphoria14 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Garcian Smith said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
ElRhodeo said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
all drug users and traficers should be the punishemnt of amputation or death respectfully, no questions asked, people just have to learn, simply as that. :)

What is wrong with you? It wasn't funny the first time, much less when you repeat it.

 

 

 


Nothing is wrong with me, I just think it's time for some hard action to be put in place because clearly having a soft hand as we have now get's us no where, simple as that.


Because clearly the answer to stem the tide of nonviolent, victimless crimes is amputation or the death penalty. Let me guess: Next you're going to say that you would shoot them yourself, but you won't because [insert excuse here]. Thank you, Internet Tough Guy jake_the_fake1, you are clearly the last true hero in this world.


some times a few have to be sacrificed for the greater good, they are casualties of war. What war, I hear you say, it's the war against drugs my simple minded friend.

Now the reason I choose such a radical solution was because the current way of dealing with this problem simply isn't working, it's just a slap on the risk and that's it, if you really want to stop it then drastic measures have to be implemented, it's really as simply as that. Now the only people agains't this are clearly the same people doing drugs so it's natural for them to be defensive, but hey it's tough love and heaven knows we need it, and we need it now.


Only thing you forget it that people know damn well what they are doing when they do it. Nobody puts a gun to someones head and says "Smoke this and/or drink this or we will kill you".

You are more like "Smoke this and/or drink this and I will kill you".

The way I see it, you are worse than they are.

Man is the measure of all things, who is anyone to tell me what I can or can't do with MY BODY.


interesting you say this, cause we sure stop those that love to cut them selvs, but hey like you said it's their body and they can do what they like to it.

Now the question is, should tax payers money be spent trying to help these people once they've gone over board to the point of killing them selvs?

I say no, they should just be left to die, they decided to do it knowing what could happen, so they should be left to bear the brunt of their decision, after all it's their body and they can do what they like with it.


According to many religions, killing yourself is wrong. I do not say it is right, but I have no control over that.

Difference here is that Marijuana does not kill you nor does you doing the drug hurt anyone else.


if your stoned, and driving a car, the likely hood of you crashing is high, it's like alcohol, while it may not kill you it's self, it robs you of the sense's and brain power to not do stupid life threatening things, and it's these thing that can not only kill you but kill others.

As for not hurting others, well that's a lode of bull, how about hurting family and loved one?


Big difference my friend.

http://www.taima.org/en/driving.htm

Read that too.

Then realize that as I said. I only smoke inside my own home. Never going on in public, although Marijuana makes you drive slower. Alcohol makes you feel more "invinclible" if you will, thus making peple drive faster. Plus the fact that personality wise, there is almost no change when stoned compared to drunk.

Big difference.

Also, Alcohol does kill you.

Also, Marijuana enhances your senses, not robs them.

Before trying to bash something you do not understand, try reading up.


that and your link made me LOLz.

I've seen many stoners from high school do some dumb shit, non of them looked like they had a brain in them when they were stoned, enhances your senses my ass, but hey if you want to belive then go right ahead, it's a free world out there to belive what you want.


Your senses are pretty much ehanced when stned, and dont try to say they are not, there is scientific proof, and seeing as you have never smoked i dont see how you would know better, the reason for it is because you are very much focused on the mind, so its as if you are concentrating on them allot more.


 look mate, stop fooling your self, cuz if what you say is true then why aren't they legalised?

after all they enhance your senses and we all know that truck drivers and commerical pilots need all their sense turned on for hours on end and marijuana seems like the perfect fit, but clearly this isn't the case, but hey keep living that fantasy.



iron_megalith on 14 March 2008
Rugger08 said:
I have to admit I haven't read the all the post, so sorry if someone else has said it:

If we legalize marijuana then it can be regulated and sold by companies who will make a profit and get taxed by the government. Positive effects:

1) No Marijuana drug dealers on the street(less drug enforcement costs and crime)

2) More Tax dollars and legitimate jobs in the U.S.

3) It won't be laced by other drugs so it will be safer for consumers

All in all, I think it would be good for the country.

 You knew laws are made to be broken. Selling these things while they are illegal proves it. I don't think this will do anything good. Expect it to be worse. 

 

Think about it. Since it's legalized if you still bought it illegally, you are not to be questioned. However you look at it, it won't stop drug dealers on the street.