Nintendo should put a nuclear grade incinerator in each Wii that will vaporise everything within a 1 meter radius if someone tries to tamper with the console!

Modding is a capital crime!

gamerdrt was close to an idea i had, what about an uncrackable CASE for the console. make the thing impossible to open without demolishing it. you could design it so the manufactuers can open it up with special tool or even maybe a software based lock on the case.

Dunno really, they'll probably take some measures, but in the end, there's really no stopping pirates.

dgm6780 said: gamerdrt was close to an idea i had, what about an uncrackable CASE for the console. make the thing impossible to open without demolishing it. you could design it so the manufactuers can open it up with special tool or even maybe a software based lock on the case.

There is no such thing as an uncrackable anything. All it will do is make the pirates see the system as a challenge and get them to crack it faster for the glory of being the first. Nothing is hack proof, and no security measure is unbeatable. MMOs are hands down the most piracy proof type of game on the market and even they are getting hurt by pirates. There is nothing hack proof.

Don't a lot of new Wii games contain automatically installing firmware updates that can potentially make Freeloaders and mod chips useless? That's the main reason I didn't import Brawl.

I don't think piracy is a big problem for Nintendo in any case. Their business model is such that they can afford to take some losses, and the whole "blue ocean" strategy is all about making people who don't know how to pirate get interested in games anyway. =P

@gnizmo anything's possible. you CAN rig the damn thing so that if it is opened by unauthorized people, it bricks itself. hacker /= godlike powers .

I dunno, but I'm playing NMH with blood, on my PAL Wii right now. Bless the mod chips.

DKII said: Why do you think this is suddenly only a problem now? At least it's not like the DS/PSP which can be pirated without even a hardware mod. And DS software sales haven't even really been hurt by it (thanks to the "casual" userbase) so why would Wii software sales be affected?

 Finally, someone with sense in this thread. I don't think Wii's SW sales will be *that* badly affected, though i could be wrong. I do however think there will be a very easy way to play copied games sooner than later.

With that said, there are basically no (other than moral) deterrents for Wii pirates. X360 pirates are thwarted by the desire to play on XBL (don't want to get banned) and the threat of RRoD. PS3 pirates currently have no avenue to play pirated games, but this will invitabily change. After the PSP, i doubt Sony is going to go easy on PS3 pirates. The Wii has no such disadvantages when considering piracy.

 

El Duderino said: Grahamhsu said: ....360 hacks aren't popular? They cracked the 360 within a month, despite MSFT saying it will be uncrackable... 360 pirating is just as easy as Wii. And you're asking why PS3? Obviously the BR game size... So yes pirating on PS3 is impossible as of now, BR was Sony's defense against it.  Sorry but thats not all right, the fact that you can´t dump BR on the PS3s hardrive is why there is no piracy, the constant updates do help a lot...

You can download any and all PS3 games from torrents no prob and you can rip them fairly easily too. The Ps3 is starting to catch steam as it does it will be more likely to be hacked and esp when BR burners are cheaper it will definitely be hacked. They are close already with teh tiff exploit and once they get a decent firmware dump it is all over with.

ChichiriMuyo said: I don't want to derail the conversation too much, but it's not possible to simply burn a Wii game to a disc and put into a modified system and have it work. Wii discs are in the same format as GC discs, and are not the same as standard DVDs. Hell, the Wii doesn't even spin the discs in the same direction that a DVD players spins its discs. The technology is no doubt similar, but you have to have a second work-around to actually play games on a Wii after you've gotten it modified (most likely a cable to connect to your pc, like with the GC).

Actually, it does spin discs in the STD direction. Discs just are "mirror images" of normal DVD:s. And who's the one that said about the size of PS3 games? Now how many games so far are over 30GB? Not a single one. Besides the size doesn't even matter, since the images can be compressed, if not now, in the future they will be. Few days of waiting to get something for free instead of buying 60-70€ from it, isn't a problem for many and besides, the 500k example, hardly anyone has so slow connection these days. But, BD being not common yet, helps with piracy. But what would help with Nintendos next console to fight piracy, would be using HD-DVD as its media.