| Shackkobe said: Yeah, yeah. You thought I had no idea about what I was talking about. Someone needs to stop throwing their qualifications and technical jargon about. I see through your act. |
Then tell us, oh great oracle of emulation, tell us in detail exactly why these numbers "matter".
| amdboomer said: Fact#3 - It has to download the titles to the HDD even when you insert a retail disc, because the X1 was never designed to decode X360 disc, it can only read the ID off the disc, that is why the actual game is downloaded to the HDD |
But isn't that what an emulator would do: include the ability to decode from the 360 disc? Perhaps SOny had an easier time of it with software emulation because the original PS3 has the emotion engine included which means being able to read PS2 discs was baked into the original design. But even so, it is surely merely a software solution because the hardware is capable of reading Xb 360 discs.
I'm going to go ahead and believe Tachikoma on this, that it is necessary to do some minor modification to the games in order for them to run on the Xb one.
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Tachikoma said:
Concerns? it looks more like trolling to me. *stares at op* |
That's why I used "", I don't want to be banned because I accuse the op of trolling ;)
Tachikoma said:
Then tell us, oh great oracle of emulation, tell us in detail exactly why these numbers "matter". |
I have nothing to prove to people like you. You are the one going around quoting your decades in game development.
It only takes knowledge of a few facts to spot deception.
Not impressed.
binary solo said:
But isn't that what an emulator would do: include the ability to decode from the 360 disc? Perhaps SOny had an easier time of it with software emulation because the original PS3 has the emotion engine included which means being able to read PS2 discs was baked into the original design. But even so, it is surely merely a software solution because the hardware is capable of reading Xb 360 discs. I'm going to go ahead and believe Tachikoma on this, that it is necessary to do some minor modification to the games in order for them to run on the Xb one. |
I don't see a modification to games but to the emulator itself and its configuration. Again, we don't know exactly why can't just play off discs but I don't see a big problem with this at all. You will be able to play your old games on a new console, even without buying them again -> backwards compatible.
| binary solo said: But isn't that what an emulator would do: include the ability to decode from the 360 disc? Perhaps SOny had an easier time of it with software emulation because the original PS3 has the emotion engine included which means being able to read PS2 discs was baked into the original design. But even so, it is surely merely a software solution because the hardware is capable of reading Xb 360 discs. I'm going to go ahead and believe Tachikoma on this, that it is necessary to do some minor modification to the games in order for them to run on the Xb one. |
The thing is it's much easier to repackage a game modified for an emulator than it is to perform these modifications in realtime on a disk based title, doing packages also means that they can include all of the title updates on the downloaded package itself, to do that with a disk version it would need to boot the game, download the title updates then apply modification to hdd based title updates that are still asking for content from a disk, which also needs to be patched.
A compiled package for a title gives them the ability to ship a known working game and not have to worry each time a title receives a new title update over XBL whether or not it will break something, since the xbox one then handles the package as an xbox one title (they can still patch it, but with better control over the process), straight up emulating the game would mean emulating much of the security chain and hypervisor functions too.
| vivster said: None of your facts really distract from the fact that you will be able to play some of your last gen games on a current gen console without extra fee. Something that doesn't seem to be the norm anymore. I own a fat lady with PS2 backwards compatibility and even that wasn't native or perfect backwards compatibility. The term BC may be misleading and some people who don't research the facts will probably be disappointed but I don't see anything bad with adding a useful feature to your console. |
You mean like i was playing some of my last gen games on a current game console without extra fee, when Sony decided to port over games like Flower and The Unfinished Swan without charging previous owners again.
I agree, that is a nice thing to do.
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| Shackkobe said: I have nothing to prove to people like you. |
Why am I not surprised?
Porcupine_I said:
You mean like i was playing some of my last gen games on a current game console without extra fee, when Sony decided to port over games like Flower and The Unfinished Swan without charging previous owners again. I agree, that is a nice thing to do. |
PS4 Backwards Compatibility confirmed!!
This deserves a thread.
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Tachikoma said:
Why am I not surprised? |
I decline from the pissing contest.
And I am honored that you think so highly of me.
:)
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