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Can Nintendo Win?

LOL NO 204 42.77%
 
maybe...? 209 43.82%
 
uh... 64 13.42%
 
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Skullwaker said:
Ali_16x said:
That's absolutely not true, they money-hatted Monster Hunter.

Oh, did they renew that fake contract again? 


Oh right,a  multi-million seller on the PSP just going exclusive to another platform, yup, not money-hatting at all. Wow



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Ali_16x said:
Oh right,a  multi-million seller on the PSP just going exclusive to another platform, yup, not money-hatting at all. Wow

Except this isn't the fucking PSP. It's the 5 million install base of the Vita in Japan versus the nearly 20 million install base of the 3DS. Wow is right. I really wonder which one Capcom would pick.

If you don't have any evidence to back up your claim, I suggest you say nothing.



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Ali_16x said:
Soundwave said:

Nintendo will have a good show, but lets face the facts

- Nintendo is only one publisher and no Nintendo is willing to go to bat for them, unless it's like LEGO. 

- Nintendo is not interested in money-hatting exclusives or any of that, so that whole thing is out.

- Nintendo really doesn't give two farts about modern industry trends.

- Nintendo tends to focus on family-centric IP that don't generally play well with non-Nintendo fans at E3.

Like even if they show a new Metroid and a new Animal Crossing tomorrow they're not going to "win" E3.


That's absolutely not true, they money-hatted Monster Hunter. I think it's just a lot harder for them to money hat because it would cost a lot more for them.

Which is more like a "once every 10 years" thing for Nintendo. And the 3DS was absolutley the safer bet for Capcom than the Vita was. The DS far outsold the PSP in Japan, the DS just couldn't run a proper Monster Hunter game, the 3DS could so if likely didn't take a whole lot of convincing. 

But by and large Nintendo is more or less on their own 90% of the time. 



Besides this E3 is not that important to Nintendo honestly.

If it was really important, Iwata would've flown to LA, but he's not coming this year because there's no new hardware being unveiled. This is just wrapping up the Wii U/3DS era, which quite frankly has been very disappointing for them (in a market sales sense), so they probably can't wait for it to be over.

Iwata will be here in LA next year when they unveil the NX. That's much more important to Nintendo.



They aren't walking out with bigger announcements than what they had, but I do think they have the potential to create a really solid showing.



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Ali_16x said:
Skullwaker said:

Oh, did they renew that fake contract again? 


Oh right,a  multi-million seller on the PSP just going exclusive to another platform, yup, not money-hatting at all. Wow


I know right.

It's not like Capcom looked at the 50-60 million sales gap between the DS and PSP and said let's not put Monster hunter on the sucessor of the best selling console of last gen unless Nintendo throws money at us. Totally illogical



bunchanumbers said:
JustBeingReal said:
I don't think so, seriously this was the conference of a lifetime!

Horizon alone is beyond legendary and it's coming next year.
For me at least that was the only real thing to blow the Fallout 4 reveal out of the water and I'm in an emotional state after Shenmue 3, the Final Fantasy 7: Remake and The Last Guardian all got announced as well.

That Horizon though, I mean given who's involved in making it, the team that Guerrilla Games has built to make it a reality are among the best guys in the field of making enormous open world western RPGs.
Dreams, that Uncharted 4 gameplay, my god this was the best E3 since 2009, may even have topped that one too!

Even if Nintendo announces a proper open world Pokemon game, a new mainline 3D Mario, F-Zero and a stunning new Metroid title they'd still not be close.
I hope Nintendo does all of the above, along with announcing some amazing new IPs, but Sony just showed they're beyond serious about this generation!

But did Sony really? Almost everything they showed were multiplats or indies. Its not like the entire lineup was exclusive to ps4. Even FF7 and Shenmue are on multiple devices. All the Sony E3 conference did was be the place where the games were announced, and that's it.

No, just no!

You're ignoring Horizon: Zero Dawn, you're ignoring The Last Guardian, you're ignoring Dreams, you're even ignoring Rigs, all of which had real PS4 gameplay and all of those titles are new, AAA IPs, made by Sony 1st party studios.

 

Horizon alone is utterly phenomenal, Guerrilla Games basically hired the best people in the world at making enormously huge and densely packed open world games, seriously John Gonzalez is the Lead Narrative Designer/Writer and he worked on Fallout: New Vegas, Shadow of Mordor and Tom Clancy's End War.

Then there's a bunch of staff from CD Projekt Red also working on the game's systems, quest stuff, it's been in development since early 2009 when Killzone 2 shipped.

 

Shenmue 3 is a console exclusive on PS4 (yes it's also on PC, but it's not on any other console) and FF7: Remake is coming to PS4 first. People though neither of these things would ever happen, same thing with The Last Guardian, but they're all happen, they were all confirmed to be coming to PS4 at Sony's conference.

Then there's that new Uncharted 4 gameplay, I mean it topped the E3 2014 reveal it was that stunning.

 

Horizon was unquestionably a contender for game of the show, if not game of the generation.

Multiplats and indies took up way less space in the conference than you're saying, this was a phenomenal conference, the best since 2009 and I stand by my opinion!



Skullwaker said:
Ali_16x said:
Oh right,a  multi-million seller on the PSP just going exclusive to another platform, yup, not money-hatting at all. Wow

Except this isn't the fucking PSP. It's the 5 million install base of the Vita in Japan versus the nearly 20 million install base of the 3DS. Wow is right. I really wonder which one Capcom would pick.

If you don't have any evidence to back up your claim, I suggest you say nothing.


Why are you comparing the sales of the Vita right now? The first portable MH game for Nintendo was in 2011 and that was also the year the 3DS launched and the PSV in 2012 so the sales of hardware didn't matter at that point. By that logic, they should have kept making PSP games because 19 million in Japan versus a few million or however much it was at that time. Also I don't need evidence for this because it's so obvious. When a multi-million seller goes exclusive to another platform, it's always one thing, money and it's trully baffling that anyone would think otherwise.  You're going to keep defending Nintendo no matter what so I'm not going to bother anymore.

And I'm pretty sure if Monster Hunter was exclusive to PS Vita it would selling a lot more than it is right now.



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ihatefatkatz said:
Ali_16x said:


Oh right,a  multi-million seller on the PSP just going exclusive to another platform, yup, not money-hatting at all. Wow


I know right.

It's not like Capcom looked at the 50-60 million sales gap between the DS and PSP and said let's not put Monster hunter on the sucessor of the best selling console of last gen unless Nintendo throws money at us. Totally illogical

Did you really just ignore the PSP sales? Sony's first handheld selling 80 million is nothing, lol.



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Will see, they won last E3.