AsGryffynn said:
shikamaru317 said:
Very nice, RIP lootboxes, you won't be missed. I assume they will sell armor sets individually, with the option to unlock them with in-game currency or buy them with micro-transactions.
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Ditto. I don't mind microtransactions per se. However, Gacha is an special kind of evil that needs to be vanished to the grave...
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Can't stand them.
Give us actual, tangible content.
shikamaru317 said:
Very nice, RIP lootboxes, you won't be missed. I assume they will sell armor sets individually, with the option to unlock them with in-game currency or buy them with micro-transactions.
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The Req system Reqqed Halo 5 for me sadly... Well. Was a big part of it anyway.
So hopefully seeing that go away will be fantastic.
Just hoping it's not replaced with something that is equally as toxic though.
flashfire926 said:
I see them doing it one of two ways.
1) Have Xbox One X be forwards compatible with all xbox two games, and make it the base console for the "scarlet" line at $299, while having the brand new tech launch at $499.
The X would be the lowest common denominator, while scarlet is the premium variant.
2) Launch a brand new console in the traditional way, $399. Give it a modest gpu upgrade, but a significant upgrade to CPU.
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Xbox One X doesn't really have much in the way of being able to be cost reduced.
It would need a revision or two for that to occur... Even then that wide memory bus isn't doing it any favors.
shikamaru317 said:
I'm 99% sure that next gen won't be a big upgrade, not unless MS and Sony are willing to sell at a loss early gen and make up for that loss with software, subscription, and accessory sales, like they used to do on earlier generations.
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It's not hard to completely embarrass the Xbox One X/Playstation 4 Pro's hardware even with commodity parts today.
Time won't be in those consoles favours.
The sad part is that they will likely leverage AMD's Graphics Hardware... Which... To be blunt... Is shit outside of a couple of edge scenarios.
shikamaru317 said:
Assuming a 2020 release at $400-500, we should get around 10-12 tflop on GPU, compared to 6 tflop on XB1 X, so maybe not even double XB1 X on GPU department. T
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More to a GPU than flops.
Flops doesn't account for the Ray Tracing capabilities in nVidia's new GPU's for example.
shikamaru317 said:
However, the upgrades in CPU and storage will be much bigger than the GPU upgrade I suspect. Ryzen is a big upgrade over the Jaguars in PS4 Pro and XB1 X, we should see at least a 3x improvement in CPU power.
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Agreed.
shikamaru317 said:
What that will mean for games is larger AI counts (think AC Unity), improved physics effects, improved destructibility on environments, and improved AI.
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Physics is very much the domain of GPU's going forward.
shikamaru317 said:
As for storage, I can't imagine that MS and Sony will stick with standard hard drives yet again, they might not gives us proper, large SSD's, but at the very least we should expect to see a decent amount of SSD cache, which will speed up load times considerably compared to this gen.
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A decent 7200rpm mechanical disk is still a substantial upgrade over the Xbox One X and Playstation 4 Pro's internal mechanical disks.
Don't count them out yet.
shikamaru317 said:
Now if MS and Sony are willing to sell at a loss on hardware, I could see GPU being pushed to maybe 14-16 tflop range. Still not enough to give us a true generational leap over PS4/XB1, at least if native 4k is the goal, but will at least push next gen games past current PC ultra settings by a good margin.
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Why can't it provide a generation leap?