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Aura7541 said:
sweetoothj said:

Then how come cod ghosts did well, sure it didn't come after ps4/xbox one launch but only a 10 day difference. It is probably in the 12-13 million mark on 360/ps3 side.

That is a very good false equivalency. Yes, let's compare a game to another game that is not even in the same genre nor does it appeal to the same fanbase.


Another goal post that has been moved! I proved to you that launch of a console has little and sometimes no effect on how much a game sells then you say "muh genre" or "muh fanbase".  If people loved GT so much they would've bought GT6 regardless of a new console. Same with COD. People love COD so they bought the next COD game on ps3/360 despite the ps4/x1 launch. 



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sweetoothj said:

Another goal post that has been moved! I proved to you that launch of a console has little and sometimes no effect on a game sells then you say "muh genre" or "muh fanbase".  If people loved GT so much they would've bought GT6 regardless of a new console. Same with COD. People love COD so they bought the next COD game on ps3/360 despite the ps4 and xbox one launch. 

Nope, a false equivalency is a false equivalency. Unless you provide a multiplat racing simulator that was released in December 2013 that sold better than Gran Turismo 6, then your claim has no basis. Unlike you, I provide evidence and logic. You, on the other hand, just rely on stubborn repetition.

In other words, GT6 didn't sell as well as GT5 because it was released right after the PS4's launch. I should also add that software sales from last gen greatly declined from 2012 to 2013.



Aura7541 said:
sweetoothj said:

Another goal post that has been moved! I proved to you that launch of a console has little and sometimes no effect on a game sells then you say "muh genre" or "muh fanbase".  If people loved GT so much they would've bought GT6 regardless of a new console. Same with COD. People love COD so they bought the next COD game on ps3/360 despite the ps4 and xbox one launch. 

Nope, a false equivalency is a false equivalency. Unless you provide a multiplat racing simulator that was released in December 2013 that sold better than Gran Turismo 6, then your claim has no basis. Unlike you, I provide evidence and logic. You, on the other hand, just rely on stubborn repetition.

In other words, GT6 didn't sell as well as GT5 because it was released right after the PS4's launch. I should also add that software sales from last gen greatly declined from 2012 to 2013.


Again "Muh genere". Genere of a game has nothing to do with it. Last time I checked vgchartz, it had gt5 at 10 million and gt6 at 3 million. You're telling me that GT6 sold less than half of GT5 because of ps4 launch? Come on now. Look at pretty much all the other big franchises and you will see ps4 /x1 launch didn't have that much of an effect. Also, of course software sales decline during that time frame, there wasn't too many game releases.



sweetoothj said:

Again "Muh genere". Genere of a game has nothing to do with it. Last time I checked vgchartz, it had gt5 at 10 million and gt6 at 3 million. You're telling me that GT6 sold less than half of GT5 because of ps4 launch? Come on now. Look at pretty much all the other big time franchises and you will see ps4 /x1 launch didn't have that much of an effect. Also, of course software sales decline during that time frame, there wasn't too many game releases.

Well you have demonstrated that you have absolutely 0 understanding of the video game market.

You think people will purchase GT6 over a brand new PS4? I would definitely not. The majority of consumers definitely would not. It's just that logical.



Aura7541 said:
sweetoothj said:

Again "Muh genere". Genere of a game has nothing to do with it. Last time I checked vgchartz, it had gt5 at 10 million and gt6 at 3 million. You're telling me that GT6 sold less than half of GT5 because of ps4 launch? Come on now. Look at pretty much all the other big time franchises and you will see ps4 /x1 launch didn't have that much of an effect. Also, of course software sales decline during that time frame, there wasn't too many game releases.

Well you have demonstrated that you have absolutely 0 understanding of the video game market.

You think people will purchase GT6 over a brand new PS4? I would definitely not. The majority of consumers definitely would not. It's just that logical.


OK, why are people buying the next COD game, Next Madden game, Fifa game, ect... over a ps4? Yes, if someone likes GT games they will keep supporting the series regardless of a console launch. Sorry, truth hurts huh.



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sweetoothj said:
Aura7541 said:

Well you have demonstrated that you have absolutely 0 understanding of the video game market.

You think people will purchase GT6 over a brand new PS4? I would definitely not. The majority of consumers definitely would not. It's just that logical.


OK, why are people buying the next COD game, Next Madden game, Fifa game, ect... over a ps4? Yes, if someone likes GT games they will keep supporting the series regardless of a console launch. Sorry, truth hurts huh.

Most gamers that just play multiplatforms don't seem to use alot of logic from what it seems



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sweetoothj said:
Aura7541 said:

Well you have demonstrated that you have absolutely 0 understanding of the video game market.

You think people will purchase GT6 over a brand new PS4? I would definitely not. The majority of consumers definitely would not. It's just that logical.

OK, why are people buying the next COD game, Next Madden game, Fifa game, ect... over a ps4? Yes, if someone likes GT games they will keep supporting the series regardless of a console launch. Sorry, truth hurts huh.

Again with the false equivalencies, eh? Heck, that's not even a false equivalency, it's a non sequitor!! If you cannot provide a valid argument, then I suggest that you stop posting. Also, read your first comment in this thread and compare it to your most recent one.

I can refute this if I want, but I think your post has already done that for me

EDIT: Just noticed Bell_Cranel's rebuttal. Not what I was going to refute with if I cared, but his statement is also very true.



Aerys said:
darkenergy said:

I...DONT...EVEN...WWWWWHHHHHAAAAAAAAATTT!!!

So tell me what would you call the Uncharted Collection if Its announced? An exclusive? Never mind, this post from you tells me I should just stop here


You dont even know that games available on other consoles cant be called exclusives ? Well, thats the real definition of exclusivity, a game that cant be made on an other platform my friend, a port/remaster/remake is not an exclusive, TLOU R, GOW 3 remaster, Uncharted Collection are not exclusive, a lot of people did the same mistake so i understand your confusion.


I'm pretty sure the Master Chief Collection isn't available on the 360 let alone Halo 2.



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Aeolus451 said:
Protendo said:


With a 2014 release date

Where did ya see that? Here's a source for release dates on Magic Duels: Origins. 

 

Magic Duels: Origins

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Also on PC , iOS , PlayStation 4

    What am I missing?
"A new title, named Magic Duels: Origins, will launch later this year on both the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One as well as on PC and tablet devices."


sweetoothj said:
JustBeingReal said:


Correction Bloodborne is a great exclusive, the highest rated exclusive from either PS4 or XBox One's library, Xbox One's still waiting to get anything exclusive this year.

As for Bloodborne being the only good retail exclusive, well Tearaway Unfolded is a retail exclusive, FYI the Vita game was regarded as a Game of the Year contender and the new game is not only  massively improved, but it also has a tonne of new content.

Fat Princess Adventures is another retail exclusive for PS4, the series always scores pretty well too and is regarded as very fun to play.

Rise of the Tomb Raider isn't an exclusive, it's coming to 360 at the same time it releases on XBox and it's most definitely coming to PS4 and PC after the Holidays.

So PS4 has at least 3 guaranteed good retail exclusives, XBox One has maybe 2 so far.

Sony also has a tonne of new games to announce at E3, Until Dawn could end up being great as well, then there's the enormous amount of other games comign to PS4, like Rime, Drawn to Death, Deep Down, Kill Strain, so what if they're not retail, they're still games, they're being developed by some of the best studios in the world and they're only coming to PS4.

Teraway is on the vita so it isn't exclusive, and fat princess doesn't score that well (less than 80 on metacritic). Also, its just an indie games. So it leaves you with Bloodborne. No ps4 version was announced for rise of tomb raider. Just wishful thinking, until it shows up it is exclusive to xbox systems. Also, there is a lot of games coming to xbox one as well. Unlike sony, microsoft tries to release accurate time frame for their games instead of waiting 5 years for a game. For example, where is TLOU? 


You're wrong. It's a timed exclusive.

 

Spencer himself says it's a timed exclusive.

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2014/08/13/xboxs-phil-spencer-responds-tomb-raider-exclusivity-questions

 

The company itself has said that it's a timed exclusive.

http://tombraider.tumblr.com/post/95495143805/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-faq