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Goodnightmoon said:

I think  at the end of the year

Xbo exclusives 2015 >>> Ps4 exclusives 2015

I think they can deliver a surprisingly good E3, maybe.

Lets not count the chickens before they hatch. PS4 already has an exclusive whch many consider a masterpiece, and Sony isn't done yet with all its exclusives this year. Meanwhile XB1 has no exclusives this year so far.



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walsufnir said:
Protendo said:
Microsoft not being to turn this around would be the best thing for the industry.

It'd send a clear message that DRM/Always Online/Requiring Gimmicks, are not the way to go. If they win, they will just try again. Let Microsoft eat humble pie. Thankfully, all Sony needs to do is a $100 price drop and they will win.


Yeah, because with Sony you don't have DRM, right? Seriously, in the current state where the consoles are in need of online connection for patches and updates operating a console without internet is close to no fun. But MS is the bad guy here, sure, and Sony the Angel sent from heaven.

Btw, Sony already is winning.

I can't believe how people easily forget what Microsoft tried to do and argue a completely different point.

True, having a console without internet is close to no fun, but MS tried to make its console non-functional without a daily internet connnection. Also, there are people (and a decent percentage I presume) that can actually have fun without internet at all. They buy a disc, play it and enjoy themselves. Sure, no updates and no online multiplayer, but unless the game is a crapfest without updates like AC: Unity (for example), they can still have a ton of fun.

Microsoft tried to block them from having fun completely without internet, to the extent that the physical disc would not work at all.

That is the difference --- nobody is arguing DRM, but physical disc DRM and treatment of all customers like potential criminals.



GameMasterPC said:
Goodnightmoon said:

I think  at the end of the year

Xbo exclusives 2015 >>> Ps4 exclusives 2015

I think they can deliver a surprisingly good E3, maybe.

Lets not count the chickens before they hatch. PS4 already has an exclusive whch many consider a masterpiece, and Sony isn't done yet with all its exclusives this year. Meanwhile XB1 has no exclusives this year so far.

People says the same about WiiU, don´t you realize that at the second half of the year is when Nintendo and Microsoft release all their bombs?

Microsoft has more important exclusives coming that Sony, that´s almost a fact. Now the E3 can changue things, but I really thing Sony E3 this year is gonna be lame.



I think there is a vast difference in supporting gamers during holiday season and throughout the year. I doubt xbox players only play during the holiday period. Both companies are still a bit flat on releases but if you look at actual games released throughout the year, Sony are doing a far greater job. The problem is MS know holiday season is the most important and mostly concentrate on that whilst Sony spreads isit's releases making it look like there is nothing to play on the system.

MS will have a stronger holiday for sure unless Sony really hits it home with No Man's Sky, Battlefront and any other exclusives they may release that are big enough to take on Halo, Gears, Forza and Tomb Raider.

So far Sony only has a rumour of an uncharted trilogy (hoping they throw in an uncharted 4 demo), Tearaway, and maybe No Man's Sky.



Goodnightmoon said:
GameMasterPC said:
Goodnightmoon said:

I think  at the end of the year

Xbo exclusives 2015 >>> Ps4 exclusives 2015

I think they can deliver a surprisingly good E3, maybe.

Lets not count the chickens before they hatch. PS4 already has an exclusive whch many consider a masterpiece, and Sony isn't done yet with all its exclusives this year. Meanwhile XB1 has no exclusives this year so far.

People says the same about WiiU, don´t you realize that at the second half of the year is when Nintendo and Microsoft release all their bombs?

Microsoft has more important exclusives coming that Sony, that´s almost a fact. Now the E3 can changue things, but I really thing Sony E3 this year is gonna be lame.

I know Halo 5 is considered more important than any exclusive released this year so far, but that doesn't make it a better game than Bloodborne. FM6 will be good too, while I don't really consider Rise Of The Tomb Raider an XB1 exclusive because its timed.


I'll also tell you one more thing, just because Sony releases exclusives during the first half of the year doesn't mean that's all they have for this year. It happens every year with Sony, but they usually release their biggest exclusives during holiday except God Of War. I don't think they'll miss this oppurtunity, they've never done such a thing in the past.



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GameMasterPC said:
Goodnightmoon said:

People says the same about WiiU, don´t you realize that at the second half of the year is when Nintendo and Microsoft release all their bombs?

Microsoft has more important exclusives coming that Sony, that´s almost a fact. Now the E3 can changue things, but I really thing Sony E3 this year is gonna be lame.

I know Halo 5 is considered more important than any exclusive released this year so far, but that doesn't make it a better game than Bloodborne. FM6 will be good too, while I don't really consider Rise Of The Tomb Raider an XB1 exclusive because its timed.


I'll also tell you one more thing, just because Sony releases exclusives during the first half of the year doesn't mean that's all they have for this year. It happens every year with Sony, but they usually release their biggest exclusives during holiday except God Of War. I don't think they'll miss this oppurtunity, they've never done such a thing in the past.


What about last year?



jlmurph2 said:
GameMasterPC said:
Goodnightmoon said:

People says the same about WiiU, don´t you realize that at the second half of the year is when Nintendo and Microsoft release all their bombs?

Microsoft has more important exclusives coming that Sony, that´s almost a fact. Now the E3 can changue things, but I really thing Sony E3 this year is gonna be lame.

I know Halo 5 is considered more important than any exclusive released this year so far, but that doesn't make it a better game than Bloodborne. FM6 will be good too, while I don't really consider Rise Of The Tomb Raider an XB1 exclusive because its timed.


I'll also tell you one more thing, just because Sony releases exclusives during the first half of the year doesn't mean that's all they have for this year. It happens every year with Sony, but they usually release their biggest exclusives during holiday except God Of War. I don't think they'll miss this oppurtunity, they've never done such a thing in the past.


What about last year?

They had Driveclub and LBP3. Driveclub didn't launch well, but currently its my second favourite PS4 exclusives after all the updates and patches. LBP3 is considered the best in the series in terms of gameplay. So yeah, they did deliver quite a few good games during holiday 2014.



GameMasterPC said:
jlmurph2 said:


What about last year?

They had Driveclub and LBP3. Driveclub didn't launch well, but currently its my second favourite PS4 exclusives after all the updates and patches. LBP3 is considered the best in the series in terms of gameplay. So yeah, they did deliver quite a few good games during holiday 2014.


Those weren't the "biggest exclusives of the year" like you said Sony always does for the holidays. Infamous Second Son was. And LBP3 isn't exclusive to PS4. And if you're including games that are on PS3 too then TLOU Remastered was the biggest exclusive.

Sony's 2014 holiday was weak. Destiny and GTA V saved it.



To be fair it's more Sony that is failing to deliver than Microsoft making a turn around. Things were pretty equal up until the Tomb Raider (timed) exclusive announcement. Then The Order failed to deliver, than the Uncharted 4 delay, Ratched and Clank delay etc.



Goodnightmoon said:

Bloodborne: 92 on meta
Super Mario 3D World: 93 
Smash Bros 4: 92 
Bayonetta 2: 91

Is not.

And Bloodborne can also be called "just another Souls game" as its core mechanics are the same as Demon Souls, and is quite similar to Dark Souls 1 and 2 too. Just because it has a different name, it doesn´t make it something new and fresh, it´s the same concept, gameplay and the same developer, the game was popular on the first place for being part of the Souls saga. And viceversa, just because a game is called the same way is not just the same game, Mario 3D world is not just another Mario, it has little to do with Galaxy (the previous one) , and Bayo 2 is the second game of the saga, not just "another Bayonetta"

Same "cant" be called super mario / smash bros games. Because they "unique". This is the most hillarious post I have ever read.