vivster said: Technically it is. Remasters, 3rd party and Nintendo don't count. |
Clearly.
vivster said: Technically it is. Remasters, 3rd party and Nintendo don't count. |
Clearly.
Burek said: What I find most impressive is Microsoft's ability to persuade their customers that only the holiday season counts and that they can get away with not releasing a single game in the other 9 months. And that fans actually can claim a superior lineup when all that is being released are two sequels and a third-party moneyhat.
And then in turn those same fans are shocked and dismayed that the rest of the population can choose to buy a console that is more powerful, has less corporate baggage, and has a much larger library of more varied game genres that releases on a continuous year-round schedule.
But that's OK, the sales numbers clearly show the disparity between people thinking for themselves and people who allow corporate PR teams to think for them instead. |
To be honest,at this point in time,Microsoft does have the better exclusives as a whole though
and your last statement in the last few lines applies to all the big 3. Everything stated in those lines is exactly what sony/microsoft/nintendo fans do as a whole,its not just exclusive to one fanbase
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Skullwaker said:
Technically, no it's not. |
It is when it comes to AAA
PwerlvlAmy said:
and your last statement in the last few lines applies to all the big 3. Everything stated in those lines is exactly what sony/microsoft/nintendo fans do as a whole,its not just exclusive to one fanbase |
To be honest, we have to assign that to personal taste, as it is a fact that PS4 has so far the best single exclusive game, and that by a huge difference from XOne's best rated exclusive which is Forza Horizon 2.
Factor in the fact that PS4 exclusive games come out at significantly shorter intervals than XOne's, it is very hard for Microsoft to defend a position of exclusive superiority.
Burek said: What I find most impressive is Microsoft's ability to persuade their customers that only the holiday season counts and that they can get away with not releasing a single game in the other 9 months. And that fans actually can claim a superior lineup when all that is being released are two sequels and a third-party moneyhat. And then in turn those same fans are shocked and dismayed that the rest of the population can choose to buy a console that is more powerful, has less corporate baggage, and has a much larger library of more varied game genres that releases on a continuous year-round schedule. But that's OK, the sales numbers clearly show the disparity between people thinking for themselves and people who allow corporate PR teams to think for them instead. |
I don't think all of this is directed at me, but I shall respond nonetheless, particularly to the last paragraph.
Its one thing to believe that the the Xbox One and WiiU do not have better line ups than the PS4. But to believe the PS4 has such a wonderful line up or library as to warrant this sort of lead? Please.
Frankly I think this generation is one great example of just how effective good (and bad) PR teams are at impacting their company's lot in the market. So much of Sony's lead is wrapped up in what is now a very dated notion that Microsoft's customers are going to be worse off than Sony's. That notion has been created and maintained by Sony's marketing masterstrokes, and Microsoft's marketing failures.
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This perception will be completyely wiped away starting next year, sony focusing so much towards ps3s end caused this.
Burek said:
Factor in the fact that PS4 exclusive games come out at significantly shorter intervals than XOne's, it is very hard for Microsoft to defend a position of exclusive superiority. |
What you just stated in the first line was personal taste as well and not a fact. you cant write off someone elses view point and deem it as an opinion but then claim your own is fact. not how it works sir
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starcraft said:
I don't think all of this is directed at me, but I shall respond nonetheless, particularly to the last paragraph. Its one thing to believe that the the Xbox One and WiiU do not have better line ups than the PS4. But to believe the PS4 has such a wonderful line up or library as to warrant this sort of lead? Please. Frankly I think this generation is one great example of just how effective good (and bad) PR teams are at impacting their company's lot in the market. So much of Sony's lead is wrapped up in what is now a very dated notion that Microsoft's customers are going to be worse off than Sony's. That notion has been created and maintained by Sony's marketing masterstrokes, and Microsoft's marketing failures. |
Actually all the devs deciding just not to develop for Xbox are also doing a great job of holding up that "very dated notion".
Even the most hardened Xbox fans can't deny that there is a lack of variety and quantity of games coming to Xbox in comparison to PS4. Note that I said "in comparison to PS4" and not that there is a general lack of variety and quantity.
Of course you can say that all these games that are coming to PS4 and not to X1 are irrelevant and it all depends on taste but then this discussion is irrelevant anyway.
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vivster said:
Actually all the devs deciding just not to develop for Xbox are also doing a great job of holding up that "very dated notion". Even the most hardened Xbox fans can't deny that there is a lack of variety and quantity of games coming to Xbox in comparison to PS4. Note that I said "in comparison to PS4" and not that there is a general lack of variety and quantity. Of course you can say that all these games that are coming to PS4 and not to X1 are irrelevant and it all depends on taste but then this discussion is irrelevant anyway. |
I think you're debating a different point? There are a number of Japanese titles coming to the PS4 and not the Xbox One. Just as Microsoft has secured a number of Western exclusives for the Xbox brand.
For the very small number of western devs that have decided not to publish for the Xbox One as a commercial decision (with no inducement from Sony) that would no doubt be a reflection on the sales, rather than the original reason for the sales. Though obviously if that continued over a (very) long time, it could become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Ruler said: Arguably? Bloodborne is the highest criticly scored game in this generation and the rest of both X1s and PS4 have pretty much same scores. The Wiiu has higher scored games on average but not everyone wants to play only nintendo games. I think you and others are overvaluing Xboxs and Nintendos exclusives, espacially since their games are mostly sequels to existing series and not new IPs. Its another Mariokart, another Halo, another Forza, another Shmash etc. |
Bloodborne: 92 on meta
Super Mario 3D World: 93
Smash Bros 4: 92
Bayonetta 2: 91
Is not.
And Bloodborne can also be called "just another Souls game" as its core mechanics are the same as Demon Souls, and is quite similar to Dark Souls 1 and 2 too. Just because it has a different name, it doesn´t make it something new and fresh, it´s the same concept, gameplay and the same developer, the game was popular on the first place for being part of the Souls saga. And viceversa, just because a game is called the same way is not just the same game, Mario 3D world is not just another Mario, it has little to do with Galaxy (the previous one) , and Bayo 2 is the second game of the saga, not just "another Bayonetta"