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JNK on 25 May 2015
super6646 said:

Watch Dogs runs like horse shit on PC.


yeah but it runs bad on wii u too. The game runs better on xbox360/ps3 as on wii u (wii u was a delayed cheap port). Unfortunaly with the lack of third party tiles on wii u there wasnt much selective. But still, if a game can run 15-20 fps on a surface 2 tablet (pCars does that) it CANT be any problem to bring that game to the wii u in 720p30fps



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Angelv577 on 25 May 2015
super6646 said:
cycycychris said:

Why are wii u owners to blame? It's third party games job to create compelling software to sell. And they have failed that on wii u. What the hell do you expect from wii u owners. For us all to line up for games that run at 20 fps and missing content in the other system. How can you say it's our fault if we don't want to buy gimped ports if there is a better version out for the 360 or ps3. Which must wii u owners already have I bet. 

Because your not buying the games!!!! Then you expect sequels. And with the Wii U architecture, you have to almost build games from the ground up (otherwise you get games that are worse than a 360 and ps3 verson).!!! This costs lots of money, and if you can't get the money, you'll go to the PS and Xbox!!! Their architecture is similar to PC, so its easy to port games (especially for Xbox). I hope nintendo learns this lesson with the NX. Otherwise they'll be doomed. Little support from fans on Wii U = give the finger to the platform and go somewhere else more profitable.

Are you sure games are easier to port to xbox than playtation? project cars runs at a higher resolution and have better frame test.  Same with a lot of multiplatform games that are ported from the pc version.  I wouldn't be sure about that.



JNK on 25 May 2015

Angelv577 said:

 Are you sure games are easier to port to xbox than playtation? project cars runs at a higher resolution and have better frame test.  Same with a lot of multiplatform games that are ported from the pc version.  I wouldn't be sure about that.

 


I remember microsoft said that the xbox one is very similar to a pc in terms of hardware and software (i guess the os is some kind of windows 8?).

They said a port from windows to xbox one could be done in less then a week but i doubt thats right^^

Otherwhise we would have seen ALOT old games (like skyrim and co) already on the xbox one.



Angelv577 on 25 May 2015
JNK said:

Angelv577 said:

 Are you sure games are easier to port to xbox than playtation? project cars runs at a higher resolution and have better frame test.  Same with a lot of multiplatform games that are ported from the pc version.  I wouldn't be sure about that.

 


I remember microsoft said that the xbox one is very similar to a pc in terms of hardware and software (i guess the os is some kind of windows 8?).

They said a port from windows to xbox one could be done in less then a week but i doubt thats right^^

Otherwhise we would have seen ALOT old games (like skyrim and co) already on the xbox one.

Still find odd that most of the ports looks and run better on ps4.  If anything both are equally easier to port but I'm not an expert.  I'm basing my opinion based on result.



SubiyaCryolite on 25 May 2015
JNK said:
daredevil.shark said:


1. Mariokart 8 follows a simple artstyle. Not much is going there. Plus the game isnt that good looking.

2. Game like project cars aka "realistic" games have lots of complex things going on. It needs a lot of processing power. Plus the weather system or other things needs a lot of work.

As for mariokart 8 digital foundy report It runs at super smooth 60 fps. But has no anti alising. Just look at the jaggies and textures.

 


Yeah to be honest i dont care about aa and co. Still thinking mk8 looks georgius but thats kind ot opinion because i like the art style

 

in terms of realistic racing game

 

vs

 

 

This game look good in my opionion and its 30 fps. I wouldnt had any problem with pCars looking like this... Dont think it looks much better on xbox one or ps4 though (yeah im like the opposite of an graphics whore i know).

But all in all im not interested in the pcars at all so i really dont care^^

Well, I dont remeber any races in Most Wanted having more than 8 racers (PCars supports up to 45 I think)

Also, the game did not have realistic physics

Lastly, despite having a day and night cycle it did not have any weather effects and excessive alpha actually brought down the framerate



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

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MegaDrive08 on 25 May 2015

Its ok ill be having way more fun on the 90's Arcade Racer.



 

SubiyaCryolite on 25 May 2015
JNK said:

Really now, Intel GPUs? Even the Nvidia Quadro 880M from my 2010 laptop runs faster than the latest Intel crap.



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

SubiyaCryolite on 25 May 2015
JNK said:

Where did u get those numbers? They are hell wrong

4400 is 352 gflops 

wii u is 390 gflops

 

Also the 4400 isnt a gaming gpu and isnt made for gaming at all. The gpu of the wii u is.

 

compare the power of both in terms of watch dogs (which is even a poor wii u port).

 

WiiU:

 

HD4400

 

the wii u is much more powerfull.

And where did you get your numbers?



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

super6646 on 25 May 2015
cycycychris said:
super6646 said:

Watch Dogs runs like horse shit on PC.


Probably runs even worse on wii U. Terribly lazy port. 


My desktop PC can barely run at 720p low 30 fps. My PC's GPU is around 500 Gflops, while the CPU is much much better than that of the Wii U, or even the XB1 and PS4. So the Wii U verisons runs like magic compared to PC.



super6646 on 25 May 2015
Angelv577 said:
super6646 said:

Because your not buying the games!!!! Then you expect sequels. And with the Wii U architecture, you have to almost build games from the ground up (otherwise you get games that are worse than a 360 and ps3 verson).!!! This costs lots of money, and if you can't get the money, you'll go to the PS and Xbox!!! Their architecture is similar to PC, so its easy to port games (especially for Xbox). I hope nintendo learns this lesson with the NX. Otherwise they'll be doomed. Little support from fans on Wii U = give the finger to the platform and go somewhere else more profitable.

Are you sure games are easier to port to xbox than playtation? project cars runs at a higher resolution and have better frame test.  Same with a lot of multiplatform games that are ported from the pc version.  I wouldn't be sure about that.

 

Yes, but because the XB1 is slightly weaker, its expected. Many games however have better frame rates than the PS4, even if its only 900p vs 1080p. It isn't a killer for me. I've played Wii games at 480p, and I still think they where fine. However, if Wii U owners can't take an inferior port, then don't expect third parties to come. PS3 owners sucked it up last gen, I think Wii U owners can too. Now of course this is an exception. But until its canceled, don't panic. And if people don't buy it, then don't bitch about a sequal.