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SJReiter on 15 May 2015
Illusion said:
SJReiter said:

Yeah, see the thing is, I feel like if it released on both Wii U and NX, I'd almost have to buy it for NX. I say that because in my mind, the NX version would almost certainly be better, either visually or because of some added features. I mean, I know that people have strong opinions about this, but I actually think TP was way better on Wii than on GCN. I think it would be similar for this new Zelda. So for someone like me, I would have played 0 Zeldas on the Wii U, which is why I'm saying it would be a disappointment. 

I agree. If you only bought TP for the GCN and never bought a Wii, you would always be wondering what the game looked like in 16:9 widescreen and  how it played with motion controls.  It would take away from the experience of playing Zelda just knowing that there's a better version out there even if the GCN version is still OK.

That said, what made the TP muli-plat release tolerable on the GCN was that Wind Waker was an amazing game.  Yes, people wanted a non-cartoony Zelda but they already had a dedicated Zelda on the Gamecube and it was arguably one of the best in the series.  The Wii U is a completely different situation, though.  Not only are we missing a proper 3D Mario game, but Zelda U is our only chance to have a dedicated Zelda on the Wii U.  Nintendo has also teased us with numerous Zelda U trailers as well as a whole 5 minutes of actual gameplay footage.  I can guarantee you that close to 50% of people who have bought a Wii U have done so at least partly because of the promise of Zelda U.  TP was icing on the cake for GCN owners, Zelda U is a fundamental pillar in many people's decision to buy a Wii U.

To respect its fans, Nintendo should make Zelda U a Wii U exclusive.  Anything that shows up on the NX should be a re-release after the fact.


I'd say you hit the nail 100% on the head for how I feel about this. If Wii U had no exclusive Zelda, it would be my least favorite Nintendo system. 



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bigtakilla on 15 May 2015
S.Peelman said:
My view of WiiU has already changed significantly. While I will reserve final judgement for when the generation is over and the system will have had all it's biggest games, it still doesn't look good.

While 3D World for example is great, it wasn't the grand ambitious 3D Mario game-changer like Galaxy was before it, or 64 was before that. I know it was never supposed to be, but it means the WiiU goes without a game of such caliber. WiiU also never had a revolutionary new game concept, easiest example is Wii and it's signature series of course, but WiiU never had this 'must have' new thing. For now, the system to me feels like it's something they made to pass the time until they come up with the 'real' new console, to tide us over while they continue their 'real' development. A stop-gap system, if you will. There's fun games sure, but nothing that's really a 'classic'. For now, I see only Mario Kart 8 as a real attempt to bring something that evolves from it's predecessors.

If Zelda then also wouldn't be exclusive to WiiU, or worse, wouldn't come at all, that would without a doubt cement the system at the bottom place of the Nintendo-system-ranking for me. If I could rather get the new game on something else (something more powerful and advanced even), that would certainly make me question why I ever got the WiiU in the first place, if I couldn't have lived without the games it got. I didn't think it would ever happen that I would consider a system worse than what I found to be the very disappointing Gamecube...

But.. We're not there yet. As it stands, Zelda U is still a 'U', and exclusively so. I don't think the game will release later than 2016 (probably November 2016) and I don't think the next system, whatever shape it may take, will release before 2017.

So Xenoblade X you don't think fits into a new gaming concept with seemless open world exploration? I'd also say Splatoon is one of their biggest leaps into a new gaming concept. Mario Kart 8 branching out and putting other characters besides ones from the Mario Universe in karts as well as making other series inspired courses is also something incredibly off the beaten path. Not to mention Fatal Frame V and W101 and their new takes on how we play those games.

Basically, you are only not seeing drastic changes to their franchises if you choose not to see them. 

Oh and Zelda U also fully fits the definition of being a new gaming concept and will also be on the wii u.



Miyamotoo on 15 May 2015
SJReiter said:
Guys, just to play devil's advocate here, how do we KNOW that Zelda will release in 2016? On the latest release calendar, it was listed as TBD. It could theoretically release in 2017. Also, my theory is that the reason why it's not being shown at this years E3 is because something is being changed and/or added to the game that has to do with NX.

We don't know, but changes are 90% that is 2016. title (november 2016. for me).

Games in Nintendo release calendar are always listed TBD if they can't be released in current year. Last year Zelda U also was listed TBD.

Theoretically can be released in 2020. too, but logical it was 2015. title and was delayed (like most of previous Zelda games), so 2016. is very logical argument.

It have nothing with NX, my theory is that Zelda will be shown on E3, but not on demo stage, just trailer.



Platina on 15 May 2015

I'd be sad, but I really doubt that this will happen



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Miyamotoo on 15 May 2015
JNK said:

the reason tp was on both systems is that the wii was very similar to the gamecube in terms of hardware and perfomance. i doubt nx will be anything like the wii u (it will be much more powerfull or arm-based)

This, Wii was basically overclocked GameCube, exactly same architecture and little powerful, porting Twilight Princes to Wii was peace of cake, and thast why we had so many GameCube ports on Wii.

On other hand, how much Wii ports we have on Wii U, none. You can bet that NX will have different architecture than Wii U.



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Hynad on 15 May 2015
Illusion said:

If you only bought TP for the GCN and never bought a Wii, you would always be wondering what the game looked like in 16:9 widescreen and  how it played with motion controls.  It would take away from the experience of playing Zelda just knowing that there's a better version out there even if the GCN version is still OK.

 


The GC version of Twilight Princess was better than the Wii version, except for the 16:9 aspect ratio missing.

The stupid waggling necessary during sword fights and the lack of control for the camera for the Wii version made the Gamecube version much more pleasing to play. The graphics were the same, excpept for the aspect ratio. Not that big of a deal. I'll take tight controls over everything else.



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etking on 15 May 2015

I will buy the Wii-U for Xenoblade only, so my view will not change. I do not even have high expectations for Zelda U since there was not a single great Zelda game after Ocarina of Time in my opinion and I played them all (and got bored half-way through the game, so I did not even finish a single one of them because I do not finish games that I do not have fun playing.) And even Skyrim is not a great game in my opinion, all it has to offer are beautiful landscapes. Gameplay and especially the battle system are very limited and do not have much to offer for me. So I stopped playing it after the first 50 hours of the game.



S.Peelman on 15 May 2015
bigtakilla said:

So Xenoblade X you don't think fits into a new gaming concept with seemless open world exploration? I'd also say Splatoon is one of their biggest leaps into a new gaming concept. Mario Kart 8 branching out and putting other characters besides ones from the Mario Universe in karts as well as making other series inspired courses is also something incredibly off the beaten path. Not to mention Fatal Frame V and W101 and their new takes on how we play those games.

Basically, you are only not seeing drastic changes to their franchises if you choose not to see them. 

Oh and Zelda U also fully fits the definition of being a new gaming concept and will also be on the wii u.

No need to get angry, and you are also repeating things I actually said or implied and talking about other things I didn't say. But anyway, I'm sorry, but this wouldn't exactly be a discussion that'll be worth it if you go this route. You can take my opinion about the state of the system as is, if you yourself feel the system gets what it needs to be able to stand as a great console with a Xenoblade, then that's good for you and I would be happy for you (I really would). For me though, the system has yet to leave the last place. I dont choose to do anything, yet I still just am not seeing it, for now.



bigtakilla on 16 May 2015
S.Peelman said:
bigtakilla said:

So Xenoblade X you don't think fits into a new gaming concept with seemless open world exploration? I'd also say Splatoon is one of their biggest leaps into a new gaming concept. Mario Kart 8 branching out and putting other characters besides ones from the Mario Universe in karts as well as making other series inspired courses is also something incredibly off the beaten path. Not to mention Fatal Frame V and W101 and their new takes on how we play those games.

Basically, you are only not seeing drastic changes to their franchises if you choose not to see them. 

Oh and Zelda U also fully fits the definition of being a new gaming concept and will also be on the wii u.

No need to get angry, and you are also repeating things I actually said or implied and talking about other things I didn't say. But anyway, I'm sorry, but this wouldn't exactly be a discussion that'll be worth it if you go this route. You can take my opinion about the state of the system as is, if you yourself feel the system gets what it needs to be able to stand as a great console with a Xenoblade, then that's good for you and I would be happy for you (I really would). For me though, the system has yet to leave the last place. I dont choose to do anything, yet I still just am not seeing it, for now.

I'm just saying as far as gaming concepts go, there have been plenty leaps this gen. Also you are assuming I am angry, when really I am more confused. Your opinion can be whatever it wants, the facts are that Nintendo is vastly changing its gaming concepts this gen so I'm going to have to go with no opinions in my statement.

I do appreciate your concern for me though.