ohmylanta1003 said:
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I don't see a potshot there. If that's his reason, that's his reason.
ohmylanta1003 said:
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I don't see a potshot there. If that's his reason, that's his reason.
I used to be a practical atheist because I never had a need for God in my life and I found the debate about whether God existed to be too philosophical for me. I also found religious types to be sissies who were kind of like Ned Flanders from the Simpsons and I really didn't feel any pull towards Christianity. I also felt that "love" was mostly a human emotion and that there wasn't really anything special about it. I didn't really believe in good or evil since I thought we were just atoms so any definition of right and wrong had to be based on societal values that constantly were changing.
One day, I had a conversion experience where I realized that there is a definite right and wrong in the world. I had been engaged in a lot of wrong since I had been having pre-marital sex and I started to need God in my life. I also started to learn what love is: love is giving everything of myself to God (and to other people by extension). I started to feel how much God loved me and how freely he offers his love to each one of us and I started to badly desire to give my love to him in return. I eventually learned that being Christian doesn't mean that you have to be a conservative republican like the media makes Christians out to be. As a Catholic, I learned that it is totally possible to accept things like evolution and climate change and to just be a well-educated person who lives in the world. The most important thing about being Christian is to love God with everything you have and the rest comes very naturally.
ReimTime said:
Spiritual meaning that while you may not believe in a deity or follow any religion, you still have a Priest bless your Boat as either a superstition or a cultural meme. Or perhaps you offer a prayer at a grave as a sign of respect. |
That just kind of seems like compliance to me. Like, I'm not religious in the slightest, but I'll still go to religious holidays, or wear religious garb at a funeral or wedding if requested (Yamulka in my case), but that's just out of respect to the people involved. While I do like challenging religion, there is a time and a place. Seems more like a social thing than spirituality.
JWeinCom said:
So, if I'm understanding you correctly, would you say spirituality is the consideration of the supernatural or things beyond what we know without worship of them? |
Yeah something like that. It also have a tendency of creeping into pseudo-science, like Healing. Or believing in ghosts. Things like that
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ohmylanta1003 said:
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Please, thank you 0___0.
Just want to correct a few people in here. Agnostic and athiest are not mutually exclusive. Claiming "agnostic" answers the question of knowing while atheism answers the question of believing. I am for example an agnostic athiest. I don't believe we can know there is or isn't a diety, using an empirical method, due to that, I can't believe in a deity. Some people are agnostic theists. They don't know there is a deity, but they have faith there is one and believe there is one. Some people are gnostic atheists, they claim they know there is not a deity, and we have sufficiently falsified its existence. Some people are gnostic thiests. They claim they know there is a deity and we have empricial evidence for its existence. Obviously since these people claim knowledge, they also claim belief or disbelief.
DanneSandin said:
Yeah something like that. It also have a tendency of creeping into pseudo-science, like Healing. Or believing in ghosts. Things like that |
Mkay. Thanks for clarifying.
JWeinCom said:
That just kind of seems like compliance to me. Like, I'm not religious in the slightest, but I'll still go to religious holidays, or wear religious garb at a funeral or wedding if requested (Yamulka in my case), but that's just out of respect to the people involved. While I do like challenging religion, there is a time and a place. Seems more like a social thing than spirituality. |
I suppose it is all in the definition of the word. To me spiritual means a deep-running connection to something; perhaps the land and the people around you. A sense of place and your link to that. Ancestors, traditions and beliefs that do not center upon anything religious.
JWeinCom said:
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No probs man!
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ReimTime said:
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Ok I get you. Not sure I would choose to use the word spiritual for it, but I can't really think of a better one.