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outlawauron on 29 April 2015
Skullwaker said:
Lawlight said:
It's been proven with the likes of NMH and the Tales of games that 3rd parties sell better on PS consoles. Even Bayonetta.

That's not always the case...

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
1 Mega Man 2 NES 1988 Action Capcom 0.93 0.15 0.42 0.01 1.51
6 Mega Man X4 PS 1996 Platform Virgin Interactive 0.45 0.30 0.22 0.07 1.04

 

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
20 Resident Evil: Revelations 3DS 2012 Action Capcom 0.28 0.20 0.30 0.04 0.83
22 Resident Evil: Revelations PS3 2013 Action Capcom 0.12 0.27 0.21 0.12 0.72

 

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
4 Shin Megami Tensei IV 3DS 2013 Role-Playing Atlus 0.25 0.00 0.27 0.01 0.54
6 Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne PS2 2003 Role-Playing Ghostlight 0.07 0.05 0.25 0.02 0.38

 

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
1 Tales of Symphonia GC 2003 Role-Playing Nintendo 0.54 0.21 0.31 0.04 1.10
3 Tales of Symphonia PS3 2013 Role-Playing Namco Bandai Games 0.17 0.11 0.13 0.06 0.48

 

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
1 Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies DS 2009 Role-Playing Nintendo 0.62 0.66 4.35 0.14 5.77
2 Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King PS2 2004 Role-Playing Square Enix 0.65 0.75 3.61 0.20 5.21

P.S. Last time I checked, Bayonetta 2 is only 7 months old.

Surely you don't think this is a geniune comparison. This is far more cherry picked than anything I've ever read on these forums. It's pretty amazing.



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BlowoverKing on 29 April 2015
Skullwaker said:
BlowoverKing said:
Not saying I agree with with the other people but you comparisons are very poor. 

 

As were the comparisons he gave. Reasons for which games sell/don't sell typically don't matter to Lawlight, only the cold hard numbers. So that's what I gave him.

I think the statement to begin with was ridiculous. In Japan, whichever console a third party game is on doesn't really matter because the game is going to sell regardless. The differences in the end are insignificant. 

Like I said, I don't agree with him either. I just wanted you to know that your comparison was very poor.



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Skullwaker on 29 April 2015
outlawauron said:
Surely you don't think this is a geniune comparison. This is far more cherry picked than anything I've ever read on these forums. It's pretty amazing.

It is intentionally dramaticized to make a point.

I'm not trying to make a claim that 3rd parties are better off on Nintendo or whatever, just that games will sell no matter what as long as there's demand. This isn't the case in the west, but it definitely is in Japan. 



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Skullwaker on 29 April 2015
BlowoverKing said:
Like I said, I don't agree with him either. I just wanted you to know that your comparison was very poor.

 

I know that.



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Lawlight on 30 April 2015
Skullwaker said:
Lawlight said:
It's been proven with the likes of NMH and the Tales of games that 3rd parties sell better on PS consoles. Even Bayonetta.

That's not always the case...

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
1 Mega Man 2 NES 1988 Action Capcom 0.93 0.15 0.42 0.01 1.51
6 Mega Man X4 PS 1996 Platform Virgin Interactive 0.45 0.30 0.22 0.07 1.04

 

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
20 Resident Evil: Revelations 3DS 2012 Action Capcom 0.28 0.20 0.30 0.04 0.83
22 Resident Evil: Revelations PS3 2013 Action Capcom 0.12 0.27 0.21 0.12 0.72

 

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
4 Shin Megami Tensei IV 3DS 2013 Role-Playing Atlus 0.25 0.00 0.27 0.01 0.54
6 Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne PS2 2003 Role-Playing Ghostlight 0.07 0.05 0.25 0.02 0.38

 

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
1 Tales of Symphonia GC 2003 Role-Playing Nintendo 0.54 0.21 0.31 0.04 1.10
3 Tales of Symphonia PS3 2013 Role-Playing Namco Bandai Games 0.17 0.11 0.13 0.06 0.48

 

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
1 Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies DS 2009 Role-Playing Nintendo 0.62 0.66 4.35 0.14 5.77
2 Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King PS2 2004 Role-Playing Square Enix 0.65 0.75 3.61 0.20 5.21

P.S. Last time I checked, Bayonetta 2 is only 7 months old.


So, we are basically comparing apples and oranges?

Tales of Symphonia - very late port on the PS3.

Shin Megami Tensei - well, before the Persona series made the SMT series relevant outside of Japan.

Resident Evil Revelations - Even though the PS3 version's sales was handicapped by the release of the 360 version, it's so close that, counting digital, the PS3 most likely sold more. There's a very good reason RE:R2 isn't on the 3DS.

Dragon Quest - sold better on the PS2 everywhere except Japan.



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tbone51 on 30 April 2015
Lawlight said:
Skullwaker said:


So, we are basically comparing apples and oranges?

Tales of Symphonia - very late port on the PS3.

Shin Megami Tensei - well, before the Persona series made the SMT series relevant outside of Japan.

Resident Evil Revelations - Even though the PS3 version's sales was handicapped by the release of the 360 version, it's so close that, counting digital, the PS3 most likely sold more. There's a very good reason RE:R2 isn't on the 3DS.

Dragon Quest - sold better on the PS2 everywhere except Japan.

Your DQ point is irrelevant as The sales 90%+ come from Japan. Almost like MH, well intill MH4U came out in the West doing 1mil+



outlawauron on 30 April 2015
Skullwaker said:
outlawauron said:
Surely you don't think this is a geniune comparison. This is far more cherry picked than anything I've ever read on these forums. It's pretty amazing.

It is intentionally dramaticized to make a point.

I'm not trying to make a claim that 3rd parties are better off on Nintendo or whatever, just that games will sell no matter what as long as there's demand. This isn't the case in the west, but it definitely is in Japan. 

I definitely agree to a certain extent. There are cases where this isn't true, but they do exist. Even one of your examples has clearly reaped the benefits of being on Playstation. Fans of certain types of games flock to certain platforms. While there are always exceptions, I do think more than overall sales are important when discussing potential sales.



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Jranation on 30 April 2015

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ryuzaki57 on 30 April 2015
tbone51 said: Its just that i dont agree with him because he thinks almost all games should be on Sony platforms exclusively. But i wont get into that, no need to... *Hides before Rol Enters 

I've never said that. I'd be perfectly happy with more multiplatform games.



 

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tbone51 on 30 April 2015
ryuzaki57 said:
tbone51 said: Its just that i dont agree with him because he thinks almost all games should be on Sony platforms exclusively. But i wont get into that, no need to... *Hides before Rol Enters 

I've never said that. I'd be perfectly happy with more multiplatform games.


If thats true why do you always say it should of been ps exclusive instead of multiplat? *Mind Blown!