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| Nuvendil said: In short, Zanza's gone crazy from his power. This is contrasted with Meyneth, who is also falible but kind. But both are contrasted with Alvis, who is unfalible and benevolent. That's where the Gnostic elements come in: Meyneth and Zanza are teh demiurge, Alvis is the Monad. Zanza and Meyneth are essentially false gods while Alvis is the true God. |
Would you consider Meyneth to be Sophia? Also could the telethia (and by extension the High Entia) be Archons? Where exactly would the Giants fit in? Although maybe the allegory doesn't have to be 1:1.
| Nuvendil said: By Bronze Face do you mean Metal Face? Or Zord? There is no immunity to the Monado, it has to do with the restrictions of the Monado since the mode it is in determines its effectiveness. So you can force it. Zord, the fat one who ate people did so because his machine body is programmed to, that's the purpose of the mass produced face mechon, as explained by Egil: the whole purpose of the Mechon is to kill off the life on Bionis to deplete it's energy. That's why he ate people: to steal ether away from Zanza essentially. Zanza never died, as explained later. That was just Egil's friend; Zanza was just using him. Zanza is merely the Bionis's soul, he doesn't have a body. That's why he needed one. Now as for whether he allowed himself to be imprisoned or was truly stuck is unclear, though I think it's the former: he could have abandoned the giant's body, but he needed a new one to transfer to. That's why he waited for a new vessel, Shulk. The Monado acts as a sort of medium or bridge for him to trasfer his soul into another body. Now Shulk being dead but being revived by Zanza as a "shell" is an example of Zanza simply being plain mistaken, which is part of the point: his falibility is emphasized throughout the narrative. He's wrong about the nature of his status, wrong about the Monado, and it even seems he is wrong or deluded about his own past. For example, he claims he has remade the world many times. However, the rest of the story tells us this is quite false: the whole reason he fought Meyneth is because that's what he wanted to do but she would never go for it. Shulk being a hollow shell was, again, just a mistake on Zanza's part, believing that he could destroy the soul but not the body or that life can exist without a soul. In short, Zanza's gone crazy from his power. This is contrasted with Meyneth, who is also falible but kind. But both are contrasted with Alvis, who is unfalible and benevolent. That's where the Gnostic elements come in: Meyneth and Zanza are teh demiurge, Alvis is the Monad. Zanza and Meyneth are essentially false gods while Alvis is the true God. I don't personally view the experiment bit as a cliche, but your mileage will vary on that. To me, it was suitable and fit the narrative without being hackneyed. |
I thought Bronze Face was Zord? Brown face? I do remember the talk about stealing ether away from Zanza, but surely a machine eating flesh wouldnt make ether disappear and would instead return to the bionis no? Still, why did he flee when he was winning a fight against Shulk and co?
Well I suppose if I do see Zanza as gone mad with power it does make sense to a few things.
As for cliche plot twist I had just watched Scrapped Princess and Utawarerumono which had similar ending twists.
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i m half way through 100% this game on my 2nd playthrough.. man this game is almost impossible to 100% without guide -.-
sry for my bad english - it is not my 1st language
To be honest guys, I don't like the visions that you have during the battles. I was fighting a giant enemy and they appeared like three or four times in a row. It kinda breaks the pace of the battles. Also, sometimes they are kinda useless, like, showing that a character will take damage, but will not die.
Also, my main team is Shulk, Dunban and Sharla/Reyn. I use Sharla when I need heal support and Reyn for more strenght. What do you guys think about Melia and Riki? I still don't know if they will be really useful. I'm doing good with this strategy so far. And I play as Dunban, because best character.
