sc94597 said:
Scisca said:
I think at this point they should go $299->$229->$199 or $179. The Wii U has been on the market for so long and is struggling so much that $50 won't change much. And $229 looks much better than $249, it's way closer to the impulse purchase territory and on the other hand, it's still $30 over the $199 price.
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How would you know the bolded? Real-world demand curves tend to be non-linear. A $50 price drop could very well mean a large increase in sales or a small increase in sales, depending on the shape of the demand curve and the elasticity of demand of the consumers. There is no way we can predict this very easily. The same can be said for a $100 drop, by the way. Also recall that in a lot of countries a $50 price cut isn't just that. For example, here in Pennsylvania there is a sales tax of $20 on a Wii U priced at $299. So if I were to purchase a Wii U it would really be $319. $249 would translate to $266.43. Now the difference here is how people percieve the price change. Going from $3XX to $2XX has shown to create larger effects in the minds of consumers than going from say $3XX to $3XX or $2XX to $2XX. Now you might say, well the same can be said for the $100 price-cut, but then the actual price would be $319 vs. $213. In the end you only get the effect of going from $3XX to $2XX, the same thing that happened when you only had a $50 price-cut. This is especially true for consumers who don't keep track of prices. They might think that $2XX is reasonable, but $3XX is not, but wouldn't really care if it is upper $2XX or lower $2XX. That is just how weirdly people think, and it is also why we always get the .99/.96 prices.
So then why should Nintendo choose $249 > $229? Profits. Nintendo is a company that likes to maximize profits. If they sell at a large loss, then selling many more consoles will LOSE them money, not make them money. And then they have to do a cost-risk-benfit analysis to figure whether or not having more consoles in homes at such a large cost is worth it. In the end, I don't think Nintendo will say it is, as they are transitioning to their new unified platform. They'd probably rather take a profit-maximizing route and decrease the price only when the costs aren't so large through increments.
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@Bolded - trust me, I'm an expert
And I know how pricing works. The reason why a $50 cut isn't enough in my opinion is that we know beyond any doubt that there is currently next to no demand for the Wii U. It's not a bad product, it has some great games, but people don't care about it, it's not competitive in today's market (let's not get into the reasons for it in this thread). The bottom line is, it can't compete with a $399 Xbone and PS4, let alone with Xbone dropping to $349. MS is aggressive, Sony is expected to follow suit some time later, Nintendo has to react. They can't make their product any better at this point, so it needs a bigger price advantage. It needs to enter the impulse purchase territory, where not only people that actively want it buy it, but also people who think "hmm, actually why not" pick it up. $249 is close to it, it's almost there, but not quite there. $199 looks much, much sexier, but such a drop comes at a hefty price for the company. On the other hand a $70 drop is financially quite close to a $50 drop. It only costs them a few $ more, considering they don't take the whole $20 of the difference on themselves (only the majority of it ), as a part goes on the retailer and another part is taxes. On the other hand $229 is a very good price that looks very good when compared to $349 of the competition. It allows the retailers to further cut it to $199 if they plan a crazy sale down the road (BF?). Moreover, Nintendo is the pioneer of such cuts (with the 3DS one) and it's proven to be very beneficial for them in the past, so why not repeat it? You're not risking that much more money than in the case of a $50 cut and get a stronger positive effect.
@Italics - I already referred to this in my previous post. Nintendo will cut the price more only if they believe in the system. Cause the system needs a bigger price cut - objectively speaking. The only reason to limit themselves to $249 is because they no longer care and consider Wii U dead. The pricing policy is gonna tell us a lot about their attitude towards the console and its future. They can either follow MS - MS believes in Xbone, they are actively trying to get it better - or they can follow Sony, which declared Vita dead and is not pushing it at all going for the easy profit-maximizing route and not taking any risks.
The thing that puzzles me is that N is so unwilling to cut the price despite the fact, that their consoles sell pretty much only their own exclusives, which in turn almost never fall in price. It really makes the most sense for Nintendo out of all three companies to cut the price and get as many adopters as possible, as they earn more money on games than the competition.
Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!
My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/
My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.