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tiffac on 18 April 2015
JayWood2010 said:

Cole added that aside from doubling down on the core audience, consoles may just be too complicated nowadays - an ironic step backwards from the days of the NES.

"We think the biggest issue is that the current generation of consoles have taken a step back in terms of usability. The beauty of game systems in the past was anyone could plug the systems in and be playing a game in seconds. This is the first generation of systems that really requires tech support and are in many ways behind what Steam has done for PC games and Apple has done for mobile devices," Cole said. "My kids have no problem playing their PC or mobile games but if I am out of town they have trouble getting on to the console systems. That is a BIG issue."

This one confused me.



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Ruler on 18 April 2015
JayWood2010 said:
daredevil.shark said:


I havent upgraded my PC since 2010 and its still more powerful than PS4/XBO

Not true, if you upgraded in 2010 you have DX10 videocard who cant run DX11 games



Ruler on 18 April 2015
Chazore said:
daredevil.shark said:
 




Look. Jay, I like you. You are one of the few users here who understands logic. What I said was from my point of view. I dont like MMOs (as I have mentioned earlier). I also dont like indies. Most of them are garbage anyways.

And steam games are not cheap. Its a myth. "Old" games are cheap at steam. Look at this. Plus I can resell steam games like PS4 games.

Mortal kombat x is $59.99.

Source: http://store.steampowered.com/app/307780/

Steam games are indeed cheap, and when they aren't they can be the same price and in end the improved visuals can be a bonus.

Source:


But can you sell them? No you cant. Console games are always cheaper, not only have we sales like steam but we also have the used game market and retail in general. You compare a brand new game but look at any 1 year old game without having a sale and compare both steam and retail console games, you will see the console games are cheaper new or used.



Jaywood2010 on 19 April 2015
Ruler said:
JayWood2010 said:

 

Not true, if you upgraded in 2010 you have DX10 videocard who cant run DX11 games


Not true. http://www.hardwareheaven.com/content/reviews/graphics-cards/28807/dx11-graphics-cards-high-end-roundup-june-2010

This is in June so it isnt even the full list including the GTX 500 series and others.  On the other hand i forgot i got a new card about 2 months so i can stream game to my Nvidia Shield.  




       

Chazore on 19 April 2015
Ruler said:


But can you sell them? No you cant. Console games are always cheaper, not only have we sales like steam but we also have the used game market and retail in general. You compare a brand new game but look at any 1 year old game without having a sale and compare both steam and retail console games, you will see the console games are cheaper new or used.

Why would I want to sell the games I wanted to buy and play?, I used to think like you are now but now I don't see a need to because I sit back and see how games pan out, if they are good on PC and moddable then I'll buy them, if not then I don't, that in turn saves me money and 99% of the time I don't see a need to sell my games.

Just saying "can ya sell them huh huh yeah I thought so!" doesn't win the argument you are making, I posted picture proof that shows evidence that PC gamers are cheaper in both the digital and physical space, not being able to sell your physical copies does nto a difference make, if you bought the game and didn't install it or the CD key then yes you can totally sell those.

MKX came out not even a full week yet and that is the actual price of both, so no we didn't have to wait weeks and months for the price to go down because that's what the price is, I'm sorry but most PC releases are £10 cheaper than consoles and this is a solid fact that you cannot deter, I know you dislike PC gaming and you've stated before and the same with Shark but you cannot just come to my face and deny the facts with little information and physical evidence, it's bad enough that there are some willfully ignorant people on ehre that claim PC's are only for playing MOBAs and MMO's and think that's all people play and can run, that's what breeds hate and dissonance because the other party disliked the advantages and popularity of the other.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

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Chazore on 19 April 2015
daredevil.shark said:
Chazore said:


They are not as cheaper as internet tells me. Plus I cant sell them. So this is a big issue.

As I have stated earlier I done care how much better a game looks. I care about playing them. Example, I cant play bloodborne in PC. Can I? Nope. Its games not system dictates my decision.

Not selling them doesn't seem to be a big issue to us PC users or newcomers tbh, it's a big issue to you but that doesn't mean PC gaming isn't popular or sucks.

If you don't care how much better a game looks then you will forever stay away from praising a games visuals on a current gen console, you know left you incite a PC user coming down to remind you what version looks better when you start that little race off, just reminding you ebcause I see people claiming they don't care how a game looks yet a while later they praise how much better a game looks like on their platform and compare to others and then they have not a leg to stand on because they went back on what they said.

If it's games to you then I honestly don't know what to say, to me it's about games and the system, what the system can do and provide me is important, as such PC happens to have plenty more games for me to enjoy and I even plan on getting some of the current gen systems provided on their library of what entices me.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

generic-user-1 on 19 April 2015
Ruler said:
Chazore said:

Steam games are indeed cheap, and when they aren't they can be the same price and in end the improved visuals can be a bonus.

Source:


But can you sell them? No you cant. Console games are always cheaper, not only have we sales like steam but we also have the used game market and retail in general. You compare a brand new game but look at any 1 year old game without having a sale and compare both steam and retail console games, you will see the console games are cheaper new or used.

dont forget the grey market.  my fav greymarket website got the game for ~20€



Chazore on 19 April 2015
generic-user-1 said:

dont forget the grey market.  my fav greymarket website got the game for ~20€

Oh yeah i forgot there's also those places too.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.