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GTAexpert said:
curl-6 said:

I never said they were all defending the game. 

You said its likely to be mostly them, I said its not and told you why.

If you have a stronger argument why it would be mostly Sony fans, feel free to tell us.

I said they would be mostly fans, not that they would mostly just want to defend it. I believe fan presence would be a factor in skewing the score higher than reviewers, that's all.



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GTAexpert said:
walsufnir said:


And I wasn't surprised to see you here :) But it was already my second post in the thread.

Neither was I


Well, self-awareness is the first step! :)



curl-6 said:
Kerotan said:

Killzone reviews are worse.  Driveclub better but I'm sure they would have been as good as the order had the online worked at launch.  

The thing is most buyers of the order knew we were getting a cinematic experience.  It's what we wanted.  The game was great.

How do Driveclub and Killzone's PSN scores compare to their metacritic scores?


Killzone close driveclub higher.  Are you referring to the meta review or meta user review? 



curl-6 said:
GTAexpert said:
curl-6 said:

I never said they were all defending the game. 

You said its likely to be mostly them, I said its not and told you why.

If you have a stronger argument why it would be mostly Sony fans, feel free to tell us.

I said they would be mostly fans, not that they would mostly just want to defend it. I believe fan presence would be a factor in skewing the score higher than reviewers, that's all.

Maybe, but not much. There will always be some people like that, but they are in the minority.



Kerotan said:
curl-6 said:

How do Driveclub and Killzone's PSN scores compare to their metacritic scores?

Killzone close driveclub higher.  Are you referring to the meta review or meta user review? 

I meant review scores.

I should clarify, I'm not trying to say any one rating is more legit than the other, just looking at the reasons why, which in my view don't invalidate the opinions themselves. For example, you're allowed to like or dislike a game cos you like/dislike the genre or the console.



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curl-6 said:
Kerotan said:

Killzone close driveclub higher.  Are you referring to the meta review or meta user review? 

I meant review scores.

I should clarify, I'm not trying to say any one rating is more legit than the other, just looking at the reasons why, which in my view don't invalidate the opinions themselves. For example, you're allowed to like or dislike a game cos you like/dislike the genre or the console.


There have been many games both exclusive and multiplat that get bad reviews On psn.  your average gamer doesn't give a shit about console warz. 

 

This idea that your average playstation player defends his exclusives is pure paranoia and straight up wrong. 



It didn't sell as much as it deserves, so it didn't fail, it succeeded. And in more ways than one, because most likely RAD itself is ruined. If there's a sequel, it'll suck. If there isn't, whatever they do next it'll suck. We'll get The Order: Shadow of Borderlands ~Gears of Destiny~. No wonder i'm relegated to playing indies and niche japanese games, if anyone else does something worth playing they get kicked in the nuts. The "big games" have never been in such a bad state on all platforms.



GTAexpert said:
curl-6 said:

I said they would be mostly fans, not that they would mostly just want to defend it. I believe fan presence would be a factor in skewing the score higher than reviewers, that's all.

Maybe, but not much. There will always be some people like that, but they are in the minority.

I reckon it'd be a moderate factor; not huge, not insignificant. Ah well, agree to disagree? :)



curl-6 said:
deskpro2k3 said:


given the content that is writen in the review. No I didn't speculate.

Can you prove it? If not, it is speculation.


Sure dude, let me break it down for you. All you have to do is compare a review that discusses all the aspects of the game, against this one. http://www.digitaltrends.com/game-reviews/the-order-1886-review/

Clearly, this review kept telling us the same thing, that it is bad and bland, but no examples. Opinions alone doesn't make a review. Hope this helps.



curl-6 said:
GTAexpert said:
curl-6 said:

I said they would be mostly fans, not that they would mostly just want to defend it. I believe fan presence would be a factor in skewing the score higher than reviewers, that's all.

Maybe, but not much. There will always be some people like that, but they are in the minority.

I reckon it'd be a moderate factor; not huge, not insignificant. Ah well, agree to disagree? :)

Yeah.