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Forums - Sales - The Order 1886 sales nearly 600,000 copies in 2 days. #SmearCampaign=Failed

GTAexpert on 12 March 2015
Mr.Playstation said:
IMO, the first weeks will obviously be big but the games legs have been broken, nobody will buy the game after 1 week.

Your prediction is wrong. 45k people bought it in its second week in US.



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deskpro2k3 on 12 March 2015
curl-6 said:
deskpro2k3 said:

65 average out of 82 critics is not as bad as you think. One reviewer gave it a 2/10 for the click baits, doesn't have to be a conspiracy.

Maybe they genuinely thought it was worth a 2/10? Or maybe the higher reviews only rated it higher to please fans?

Why are only low scores suspect?


I don't comment on speculations.



curl-6 on 12 March 2015
GTAexpert said:

No, you said its because fans defend their brands. User scores are high most likely because people like them, just gave my example. Nobody other than internet fanboys care so much about the brand that they would defend a game that they bought and didn't like. Its their hard-earned money, so if the brand doesn't deserve it, they would voice their opinions.

Also if you're wondering all ratings on PSN are given by people who bought the game from PlayStation Store.

And I stand by that. Given the audience of The Order is likely be hardcore Sony fans, I supect brand loyalty plays a large part in how they would rate it. And that's fine. Everyone has factors that influence their ratings; trolls, fans, they are all entitled to their own opinion.



curl-6 on 12 March 2015
deskpro2k3 said:
curl-6 said:

Maybe they genuinely thought it was worth a 2/10? Or maybe the higher reviews only rated it higher to please fans?

Why are only low scores suspect?

I don't comment on speculations.

Yes you do; you speculated that the 2/10 was a suspect score.



deskpro2k3 on 12 March 2015
curl-6 said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I don't comment on speculations.

Yes you do; you speculated that the 2/10 was a suspect score.


given the content that is writen in the review, yes.



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deskpro2k3 on 12 March 2015
curl-6 said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I don't comment on speculations.

Yes you do; you speculated that the 2/10 was a suspect score.


given the content that is writen in the review. No I didn't speculate.



curl-6 on 12 March 2015
deskpro2k3 said:
curl-6 said:

Yes you do; you speculated that the 2/10 was a suspect score.


given the content that is writen in the review. No I didn't speculate.

Can you prove it? If not, it is speculation.



walsufnir on 12 March 2015
GTAexpert said:
spemanig said:
GTAexpert said:

When half your criticisms seem to be made up I have a hard time taking your post to be anything but your usual downplaying of PS exclusives.


Again, not deserving of intelligent response. I'm sure the entire industry is filled with "PS4 hating Wii U fans, who also happen to criticize Wii U games like Splatoon (of which we have been caught on record refering to it as "insulting" and something else with the phrase "polished shit" thrown around), Devil's Third (whom we lovingly renamed 'Devil's Turd'), and Star Fox U," too.

You caught us, good sir. We're all secretly apart of the Wii Uminati, and our sole goal is to say mean things about PS4 exclusive games in a focused attempt to financially ruin Sony more than they've already ruined themselves. (You know, unless the Wii U has a shit game coming out. Then we'll say mean things about those games too, but that's out of blind tough love. Don't pay attention to that...)

And we shall succeed, Goddammit! WE SHALL!

This sarcastic post of yours actually doesn't seem too far from the reality on VGC.

Its all but obvious you wouldn't accept the truth, and I wouldn't believe your crap. So lets end the discussion here.


Oh, in this case of the order there are a lot of truths to be told, for sure!



GTAexpert on 12 March 2015
curl-6 said:
GTAexpert said:

No, you said its because fans defend their brands. User scores are high most likely because people like them, just gave my example. Nobody other than internet fanboys care so much about the brand that they would defend a game that they bought and didn't like. Its their hard-earned money, so if the brand doesn't deserve it, they would voice their opinions.

Also if you're wondering all ratings on PSN are given by people who bought the game from PlayStation Store.

And I stand by that. Given the audience of The Order is likely be hardcore Sony fans, I supect brand loyalty plays a large part in how they would rate it. And that's fine. Everyone has factors that influence their ratings; trolls, fans, they are all entitled to their own opinion.

That's the problem with you, you automatically suspect that only "hardcore Sony fans" have given this a good rating just because reviews have been mixed, even though you yourself admit taht you disagree with reviewers sometimes.

Another problem here is that these ratings are given by paying customers, and if these customers aren't pleased with the game they would not give it a good rating. If a customer disliked a game which he ought for $60, he would complain about it, that's a fact.

Yet another problem here is that this title doesn't appeal to you, so you feel its deserving the score as you don't like cinematic games. But its customers are probably expecting that, and if it delivers well on those fronts, they are happy with it. So it doesn't need to be about defendng the game.



Kerotan on 12 March 2015
curl-6 said:
Kerotan said:

Or maybe the people who bought it actually got what they wanted.  I've seen plenty of low star ratings for shit games. 

For multiplats maybe, but I suspect exclusives benefit greatly from fans defending their brand. (Not just on PS either) How are the ratings for or Killzone Shadowfall and Driveclub? (Games that have mixed reviews)


Killzone reviews are worse.  Driveclub better but I'm sure they would have been as good as the order had the online worked at launch.  

 

The thing is most buyers of the order knew we were getting a cinematic experience.  It's what we wanted.  The game was great.