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shikamaru317 said:
Cloudman said:
Pardon me for not knowing, but what exactly does a smear campaign mean...? o:

It's a term generally used in politics, where one politician will come up with an ad campaign designed to make his opponent look bad, often with lies or half-truths. In this case it would mean that game critics all got together and consipired to make The Order look bad. I highly doubt that's the case, it doesn't seem to me like critics were giving bad reviews to The Order just to hurt the game, I think many of them genuinely did not like it that much.


Thanks for answering too. I agree with you. I don`t think reviewers poorly rated the Order as a sort of agenda, but genuinely had criticisms to give for it.



 

              

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Playstation_prophet said:
No, but he is looking for hits just like a few other websites. People aren't going to your site if you give screamride a 4/10.

Why are people singling out ScreamRide as if it was universally praised? It has five 5/10s on metacritic and a 71 overall. And if people liked it more than The Order, so what? What's the big deal? If you like it so much, why does it matter what other people think?



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Playstation_prophet said:
Trunkin said:

lAngry Joe's review made the game look like crap. Is he part of the smear campaign?


No, but he is looking for hits just like a few other websites. People aren't going to your site if you give screamride a 4/10.


Lol nice deflection. Can't defend a game without bashing another eh?

Seriously this second sentence wasn't even needed.



Good launch sales was expected, it looks like a great shooter.

But the legs aren't gonna be as impressive.



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Trunkin said:

lAngry Joe's review made the game look like crap. Is he part of the smear campaign?


No, but he is looking for hits just like a few other websites. People aren't going to your site if you give screamride a 4/10.


Havent you heard? There was very little hype for The Order. So these websites would have nothing to gain from smearing it.



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This thread should be locked. It's frankly uncomfortable reading some of the shit in here.



RolStoppable said:
A smear campaign isn't as visible as massive TV ads. Add a review embargo that makes it impossible for people to cancel their preorders and you can sell pretty much anything as long as it has good graphics.

My point is that The Order 1886 would have achieved these sales, even if it were a two hour game with a 38 Metascore.

If he is able to read and accept your comment for what it is... He will find a perfect (analogy?) explaining it perfectly. You are exactly correct, this game could have been a can of salted pickles, with HD Graphics and massive ad campaigns synthetic hype, combined with review embargoes = Sales. Unfortunately. This is the world we live in. I do not fault Sony one bit for this tactic. It's good business. The business end doesn't always agree with the consumer side. They have to find a happy medium. I think Sony has been fair and transparent so far with the PS4. I personally did enjoy the game a lot, it had slick productions values, graphics, and I loved the lore of an alternate history London.. I love the era, I've always loved (is it the Middle Ages?). Just that time in history. The half-breeds, the humans, that entire world really drew me in. Story was lackluster, but there was more to see than just that. I understand why people don't like it, and I understand why people do like it... 

 

But moral of this post, is to say that I think you're post is exactly why it had the sales that it did. It will (and has) dropped fast. Still respectable numbers no doubt.. But realistically they were boosted by what RolStoppable said. 





There "was" a guy on this site campaigning against The Order. He would go into all the threads regarding The Order and post how much he dislikes the game and then end every post with saying he don't want to see, hear, or read about The Order.

If that is not a Smear Campaign then I don't know what is. what he tried to do, failed.



deskpro2k3 said:

There "was" a guy on this site campaigning against The Order. He would go into all the threads regarding The Order and post how much he dislikes the game and then end every post with saying he don't want to see, hear, or read about The Order.

If that is not a Smear Campaign then I don't know what is. what he tried to do, failed.

You're equating one single guy on one single internet forum to a smear campaign? 

And if this one guy's smear campaign had succeeded, how much less would The Order have sold? 100K? 10k?