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dgm6780 said:
have you read any of the posts? it IS popular in the US, just not as a spectator sport.

yea. most times soccer is just an option for parents to put their kids in to exert some of that energy into running instead of at home.

 

 



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Like many other people said here, soccer is TOO slow-paced...It is fun to play, but not to watch...I mean when Eli Manning escaped that sack in the Super Bowl everyone went crazy....Can you do something that thrilling in soccer other than scoring an awesome goal???? In basketball, when someone dunks, everyone goes wild....Now, if soccer had a few less rules..(lets say you could use your hands or your feet)...it would be more "actioney" and captivating..

Look at this picture...Can you create this much excitement in soccer?:

 

 

 



 

yog-sothot said:
mmmh... some people here seem to say

football = USA
soccer = Europe

but the truth is more like

football = USA
soccer = Europe, Africa, Asia, South and Central America, Antartic (yup)

Actually, I this was not an american website, I would not even use the word "soccer" as everywhere else in the world we call it "football" and we call your football "american football" (you follow ?)

Beside that, I think the arguments of low score and difficulty to put commercials are quite good. The cultural difference too : I think american people usually don't like it when they are not the ones who spread their own culture around the world so they don't easily accept what's coming from other countries (metric system, movies, food and, here we come, soccer)

 Hmmm, you're not entirely right on those points. For one thing, I know for sure that in Japan the sport is also called Soccer. 

As far as Americans not accepting others cultures, are you serious? It definitely matters where you come from, but in the big cities it's a fucking smorgasboard of different cultures. As far as being accepting of other cultures, America is probably one of the most accepting (natually, since we have the highest rate of immigrants coming in, now at over 10% of our population). Especially in the food aspect. Tortillas are now more popular than bagels, english muffins and pitas in the US. When it comes to food, it's hard to argue that Americans aren't open minded. 

 Also, alot of your points are based on presumptions about Americans. For one thing, as it has been mentioned already, soccer/football has one of the highest levels of participation in terms of people playing it. It just hasn't expanded as a sport to watch for a number of reasons. For one, our best players either go to other sports or go play in Europe. We don't have an entrenched soccer/football culture with regional rivalries that have been going on for decades. It's hard to just come in and say "hey, you guys play the sport, now start watching the Galaxy play", and have people care. In contrast to this, you can see historical rivalries play a large part in turn out in alot of college sports in America. The MLS level of play isn't high enough compared to other professional sports in the US. Also, I hate to say this as an American, but American commentators are the absolute worst when it comes to this sport.

Some other reasons that I think keep soccer from being big is an American desire to see a game to win or loss. Baseball, Football, Hockey, Basketball all play to a definitive conclusion. Soccer does as well, but it pisses me off when I watch a friendly and it ends in a tie (most recently, US vs. Mexico's 2 - 2 tie). The lack of advertising time is more of an issue with douchy corporations than with the desire of the average American. Trust me, we are fucking sick of all the advertisements that break the flow of shows and sports.

 But, we are getting better. If it wasn't for the dirty tactics and impressive acting ability of the Italian team (which they took all the way to the final match), we may have beaten them in the 2006 World Cup. Over the last decade, we have dominated Mexico, whereas before the best we could hope against them was that they would be kind enough to lube up before raping us. And with the high level of Latin American migration and what is most certainly going to be a high level of mixing that will arise from it, there is going to be a greater cultural attachment to the sport in the coming decades, which the MLS is in a good place to capitalize on now that a league has been set up.



supermariogalaxy said:

Like many other people said here, soccer is TOO slow-paced...It is fun to play, but not to watch...I mean when Eli Manning escaped that sack in the Super Bowl everyone went crazy....Can you do something that thrilling in soccer other than scoring an awesome goal???? In basketball, when someone dunks, everyone goes wild....Now, if soccer had a few less rules..(lets say you could use your hands or your feet)...it would be more "actioney" and captivating..

Look at this picture...Can you create this much excitement in soccer?:

 

 

 


 yes when manning escaped that was pretty cool. but when boruc made that save to deny man utd the win that was eexciting. when liverpool came back from 3 goals to tie and win in a shootout that was exciting. when italy beat france in the shootout that was exciting, painful but exciting.

and yes you can dosomething thrilling in soccer other than an amazing goal. you can stop a penalty shot (all the fans go wild), you can fake some1 out with your moves i.e c.ronaldo. (crowd also goes oooo). and sometimes the players keep getting corners and missing which makes you stand up on your feet because they keep missing by inches.

fifa shuldnt have to change the rules of this beautiful game and affect everyone else in the world, just because some americans think its too boaring. 



Soccer is not popular in the US because it sucks. Lol just kidding.

I personally don't like it but I have no idea why other's don't like it.



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supermariogalaxy said:

Like many other people said here, soccer is TOO slow-paced...It is fun to play, but not to watch...I mean when Eli Manning escaped that sack in the Super Bowl everyone went crazy....Can you do something that thrilling in soccer other than scoring an awesome goal???? In basketball, when someone dunks, everyone goes wild....Now, if soccer had a few less rules..(lets say you could use your hands or your feet)...it would be more "actioney" and captivating..

Look at this picture...Can you create this much excitement in soccer?:

 

 

 


 Dude, how much of soccer have you watched? An amazing goal is just as impressive as any of those feats. I love watching football, and I went apeshit when Eli escaped that sack, but I was just as excited when Magallon scored his second goal against the US team in the recent friendly. 

 If you wanna talk about about going crazy, even the hooligans are tame compared to the Aztecs. If you lost their ballgame (kind of a hybrid of soccer and basketball), you could get sacrificed to the gods. Or if you win you could get sacrificed to the gods. Kind of a no-win situation. Now, those ppl were crazy. 



supermariogalaxy's post just shows how little he knows about football to be honest, nothing else.

Someone doing a slam dunk in basketball is cool, but not OMGZ guys because it happens quite frequently.



Capt. and why no pictures to go with your statements?

Because all it's going to show is a guy kicking a ball, with no amazing captioning available. Atleast with the basketball picture you know what's the setup: he's making a great slam dunk. Whereas in a soccer picture, unless you saw the video, you have no idea about the conditions of the actual goal.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

Dianko said:
yog-sothot said:
mmmh... some people here seem to say

football = USA
soccer = Europe

but the truth is more like

football = USA
soccer = Europe, Africa, Asia, South and Central America, Antartic (yup)

Actually, I this was not an american website, I would not even use the word "soccer" as everywhere else in the world we call it "football" and we call your football "american football" (you follow ?)

Beside that, I think the arguments of low score and difficulty to put commercials are quite good. The cultural difference too : I think american people usually don't like it when they are not the ones who spread their own culture around the world so they don't easily accept what's coming from other countries (metric system, movies, food and, here we come, soccer)

Hmmm, you're not entirely right on those points. For one thing, I know for sure that in Japan the sport is also called Soccer.

As far as Americans not accepting others cultures, are you serious? It definitely matters where you come from, but in the big cities it's a fucking smorgasboard of different cultures. As far as being accepting of other cultures, America is probably one of the most accepting (natually, since we have the highest rate of immigrants coming in, now at over 10% of our population). Especially in the food aspect. Tortillas are now more popular than bagels, english muffins and pitas in the US. When it comes to food, it's hard to argue that Americans aren't open minded.

Also, alot of your points are based on presumptions about Americans. For one thing, as it has been mentioned already, soccer/football has one of the highest levels of participation in terms of people playing it. It just hasn't expanded as a sport to watch for a number of reasons. For one, our best players either go to other sports or go play in Europe. We don't have an entrenched soccer/football culture with regional rivalries that have been going on for decades. It's hard to just come in and say "hey, you guys play the sport, now start watching the Galaxy play", and have people care. In contrast to this, you can see historical rivalries play a large part in turn out in alot of college sports in America. The MLS level of play isn't high enough compared to other professional sports in the US. Also, I hate to say this as an American, but American commentators are the absolute worst when it comes to this sport.

Some other reasons that I think keep soccer from being big is an American desire to see a game to win or loss. Baseball, Football, Hockey, Basketball all play to a definitive conclusion. Soccer does as well, but it pisses me off when I watch a friendly and it ends in a tie (most recently, US vs. Mexico's 2 - 2 tie). The lack of advertising time is more of an issue with douchy corporations than with the desire of the average American. Trust me, we are fucking sick of all the advertisements that break the flow of shows and sports.

But, we are getting better. If it wasn't for the dirty tactics and impressive acting ability of the Italian team (which they took all the way to the final match), we may have beaten them in the 2006 World Cup. Over the last decade, we have dominated Mexico, whereas before the best we could hope against them was that they would be kind enough to lube up before raping us. And with the high level of Latin American migration and what is most certainly going to be a high level of mixing that will arise from it, there is going to be a greater cultural attachment to the sport in the coming decades, which the MLS is in a good place to capitalize on now that a league has been set up.


 i have to disagree with you and agree with you

again i will say, i watch arsenal vs wigan and it was 0 0 but it was a very very very exciting game. teh amount of saves last minute saves, shots on goal, and corners in that match was amazing.  i hate when people say its a boaring game cuz they tied 2-2. i swear the only time americans watch soccer is in a penalty shootout.

but i have to agree wthi you on the italy thing. they are a bunch of filthy fucking cheaters and usa deserved to win that match. they will do what ever it takes to win liek dive to get free kicks and penaltys ( vs australia), say things about peopels moms (zidane) and fix matches ( ac milan fiorentina and juventus). thats why i was so fucking happy and i ran around my house when arsenal beat ac milan. 



mrstickball said:
Capt. and why no pictures to go with your statements?

Because all it's going to show is a guy kicking a ball, with no amazing captioning available. Atleast with the basketball picture you know what's the setup: he's making a great slam dunk. Whereas in a soccer picture, unless you saw the video, you have no idea about the conditions of the actual goal.