One of my friend's owns a wii u and barely plays any games whatsever on it except when one of nintendo's staple games is released. He's a long time casual and he calls himself that. I would have to agree with kerotan about 3rd party games. If someone puts in a lot of hours consistently into any game, they're not a casual.

Personally i dont care that much about third party games, except maybe star wars battlefront , i wish that would come to the Wii U! But other then that all the stuff nintendo produces exclusive to there consoles is more my type of games, and i enjoy mostly anything nintendo releases

I knew someone would mention these. You can't count GTA, its GTA. If they ported it to the Wii U even it would sell well there. Last of Us is a popular game with a lot of hype, and it also had bundles and a lot of people who owned ps4 didn't have ps3s. ( a lot upgraded from wii and 360 to ps4 than from ps3 to ps4, we had some statistics for that back then). There are always going to be exceptions but year old ports do not do well. Another thing you have to realize is that building an audience from a fanbase doesn't happen overnight. The problem lies with the third party. You know something these ports do that the Wii u ones don't? They run properly. the Wii U always has gimped versions which is another reason you don't see them selling well and  I mentioned it in my last post ut you clearly ignored that.

At least PS5 and Xnext still won't be cloud-based, the tech is imature. I can see they having more cloud tech attached, but not as a demand. X1 showed us that the consumer isn't very interested in an always online gaming device and we were talking about a once a day check, not a need for a permanent conection.

One of the first rules of programming is that the network isn't reliable. Because it really isn't. This isn't video streaming, where you can have a buffer so momentary interruptions won't affect the quality. However, a 500ms interruption in a game streaming just ruined your experience. That's why this is a big issue. And despite that, a lot of regions in all countries have slow connections. Streaming is something oriented to the future, not for the present.

About power, a portable/console hybrid couldn't come nowhere close in power to a normal home console. A home console like PS4 or X1 uses around 200w. A handheld is limited to 5w. That alone just makes the handheld way less powerful because both use the same tech (most current one) but one has to to the job with 20 to 40 times less power usage. That alone makes any handheld usually weaker than the last gen home consoles by a tiny bit. They only manage to beat the older machines because they apply a much newer tech. But compared with machines of the same gen, that use the same modern tech, they are slaughtered.

People who call themselves hardcore and others casual are usually casual themselves lol.

As if being a casual gamer is an insult...

A hardcore gamer wouldn't let graphics get in the way of his enjoyment from games. I thought ALBW looked lame at first (graphics), but I'm so glad I gave it a try lol.

So you're basing it on a guy you know? 

I know people who've put a lot of hours into Farmville and Angry Birds. I guess they're hardcore gamers as well. :p

What if someone puts in thousands of hours on The Legend Of Zelda (completely possible) but that's the only game he plays? Is he Zeldacore? Is it like rock music where there are subdivisions?

Cause I'm easily Xenocore!

I dont want anything. I am perfectly fine with the Wii U aslong as Nintendo continues to support it. I got a PS4 for the multi-plats.
If you want the multi-plats to matter, you need to have the most powerful console. I just dont know if Nintendo wants to return to that. The fusion between portable and home, having a portable that can connect to the Tv may work as it saves money to consumers and doesnt spread Nintendo resources. But, i am in no rush to see Nintendo's next system, especially when theres no garantee it can do better.

It would make the player hardcore, in regards  to the whole Hardcore/Casual thing the mistake people make is that they  believe the illusionary definitions the industry throws out, being someone who started gaming in the 80s my view is that hardcore players are people who'd put loads of hours into any game, these are the people who've played their preferred game to death that they know the ins and outs of it, these guys are the speed runners, the combo specialists in action or fighting games, the grandmasters/ladder kings in RTS games etc... A player who plays many different games is not necessarily a hardcore player but and avid gamer, someone who is informed and games in a more wider spectrum, a casual player is just someone who games on a lighter note.

The type of game a person plays doesn't determine what type of gamer they are, that's the big misconception now days.