Captain_Yuri said:
rolltide101x said:
Most people do not care about being ultra competive in strategy games, technically no PC game without controller support is meant to be played with a controller though..... I do not think anybody is making the arguement that the Steam Controller will perform on par with a keyboard and mouse but the majority of the people interested in a Steam Controller do not care.
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Well, the question will certainly be exactly how many people do care about playing a PC game with a controller that was not ment to be played with a controller... Specially RTS games and other games. Its not even about being ultra-competitive since many non-competitive people play sc2... I don't even think games like command and conquer would work that well with a controller once you are versing someone online who uses a keyboard/mouse.
And yes, you could say that about the whole "no PC game without controller support is meant etc" but there are many games that are designed around mouse and keyboard for a reason and there are plenty of hotkeys and button combinations that are avaliable to keyboard users that you can't do with a controller because there just aren't enough buttons on the controller. If you really want to do it just for casual play, then sure but I doubt that will justify the purchase for most people if they already have a xbox controller which I am sure many do. We will see how well it sells but for me, I am not very interested cause I never really have the need to play games like sc2 with a controller cause even at the lower leagues and online arcade matches, I would probably lose
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The other thing I realised is, though Red Alert 3 back on PS3/360 worked somewhat well with the Command Wheel Interface that EA designed specifically for controllers it did still feel sluggish and wasn't as accurate but he could still have some good casual non competitive fun with the gamepad, provided RTS games code for the pad and incorporate EA's CWI since no other console RTS has that nailed down as much as EA did back in 2008.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YxP9cpFlRw
In this vid you can see how the player uses the CWI and how the map functions with the R2/RT on the gamepad to enlarge it but it blocks a good portion of his screen if he wants to move more faster.
You can as far as I know create some control groups with the gamepad but you cannot make as many as the hotkeys on a keyboard and you do lose some functionality in the process like some comand orders and placing bookmarks on the map to access.
I recon if the SG was a success then it would entirely be up to RTS devs (the little that are left these days) to throw in controls and rebind keys for the gamepad and even then the pad would definitely need a CWI to get the most functionality out of it, a non CWI would look like such a nightmare.
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