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jlmurph2 on 22 February 2015
JayWood2010 said:
Shinobi-san said:


Metaphors.  He is saying that without the nation threads that it would revolt to being chaos and propaganda as most exclusive threads turn into and not everybody is interested in that type of discussion. Go visit a Rare ltd thread. And we are ignoring the fact that XBE has both made the Xbox community larger than ever before, and ironically more active because they do feel safer.  And we are ignoring that because of that thread people has specifically joined.  I cant even comment on how many people has come into XBE saying they signed up to VGC because of XBE because it happens often.

There is also a TON of info that gets posted in these threads that usually would die if made its own thread.  Its a place that offers a social aspect where people can get to know each other and feel safe by talking about things they love rather than dealing with people who makes propaganda posts because they hate a plastic box.  


Decided to make an XBE topic a thread. This is the result. 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=198631&page=1#4



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Jaywood2010 on 22 February 2015
jlmurph2 said:


Decided to make an XBE topic a thread. This is the result. 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=198631&page=1#4


Yepp, and that is the way it always has been on VGC. Vasto and Nsanity were perfect examples of this.

Though i imagine somebody will try bumping your thread as they just did because of your post, so you can expect fake posts in there now that you brought it up




       

jlmurph2 on 22 February 2015
JayWood2010 said:
jlmurph2 said:


Decided to make an XBE topic a thread. This is the result. 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=198631&page=1#4


Yepp, and that is the way it always has been on VGC. Vasto and Nsanity were perfect examples of this.


While the only time a MS thread will gain traction is when its confrontational. For example:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=198636&page=1#6



Jaywood2010 on 22 February 2015
jlmurph2 said:


While the only time a MS thread will gain traction is when its confrontational. For example:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=198636&page=1#6


Yepp.  Talk about being unwelcomed, look at Xbox threads in general across VGC




       

Mr.Playstation on 22 February 2015
jlmurph2 said:
JayWood2010 said:


Metaphors.  He is saying that without the nation threads that it would revolt to being chaos and propaganda as most exclusive threads turn into and not everybody is interested in that type of discussion. Go visit a Rare ltd thread. And we are ignoring the fact that XBE has both made the Xbox community larger than ever before, and ironically more active because they do feel safer.  And we are ignoring that because of that thread people has specifically joined.  I cant even comment on how many people has come into XBE saying they signed up to VGC because of XBE because it happens often.

There is also a TON of info that gets posted in these threads that usually would die if made its own thread.  Its a place that offers a social aspect where people can get to know each other and feel safe by talking about things they love rather than dealing with people who makes propaganda posts because they hate a plastic box.  


Decided to make an XBE topic a thread. This is the result. 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=198631&page=1#4


I don't think that's the reason why that post didn't get that many posts, I think the reason is because the original post is long winded and only includes quotes from other website. Making a shorter more concise thread would greatly benefit the whole thread and bring in more posts. I also do see this in alot of posts in the Xbox Empire thread were chunks of texts are copied.



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Shinobi-san on 22 February 2015
JayWood2010 said:
jlmurph2 said:


Decided to make an XBE topic a thread. This is the result. 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=198631&page=1#4


Yepp, and that is the way it always has been on VGC. Vasto and Nsanity were perfect examples of this.

Though i imagine somebody will try bumping your thread as they just did because of your post, so you can expect fake posts in there now that you brought it up

On that same train of thought, would the thread be made as a result of this thread? And similarly, not posted in as a result of this thread to prove a point?

And then people might start posting to prove my post wrong...

That line of thinking can go both ways and doesnt lead anywhere constructive imo.



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Jaywood2010 on 22 February 2015
Shinobi-san said:

I dont know what the solution is, i was just giving some suggestions as others have. But i do feel there is a problem, and i always have, way before the PS guys even left.

 

The solution is to actually focus on making the site better. Updates, leadership, and consistent numbers.  Stop focusing on trivial things to create drama.  And part of the blame goes on the mods too, so step back and look at yourselves a little bit before trying to put sole blame on 4 threads that have thrived in positivity which this forum severely lacks.




       

Jaywood2010 on 22 February 2015
Shinobi-san said:

 


Go look through Vasto and Nsanity's threads and you will know exactly what he is talking about. Though will you ignore that too?  This is a common occurence, not a singular incident though we can act like it isnt to support our point.





       

Shinobi-san on 22 February 2015
JayWood2010 said:
Shinobi-san said:


Metaphors.  He is saying that without the nation threads that it would revolt to being chaos and propaganda as most exclusive threads turn into and not everybody is interested in that type of discussion. Go visit a Rare ltd thread. And we are ignoring the fact that XBE has both made the Xbox community larger than ever before, and ironically more active because they do feel safer.  And we are ignoring that because of that thread people has specifically joined.  I cant even comment on how many people has come into XBE saying they signed up to VGC because of XBE because it happens often.  And i always make sure to go and welcome them.

There is also a TON of info that gets posted in these threads that usually would die if made its own thread.  Its a place that offers a social aspect where people can get to know each other and feel safe by talking about things they love rather than dealing with people who makes propaganda posts because they hate a plastic box.  

Like i said in my initial post i do believe there is a place for them in the community. But i also believe the negative elements exist and that they need to be dealt with.



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Shinobi-san on 22 February 2015
JayWood2010 said:
Shinobi-san said:

I dont know what the solution is, i was just giving some suggestions as others have. But i do feel there is a problem, and i always have, way before the PS guys even left.

 

The solution is to actually focus on making the site better. Updates, leadership, and consistent numbers.  Stop focusing on trivial things to create drama.  And part of the blame goes on the mods too, so step back and look at yourselves a little bit before trying to put sole blame on 4 threads that have thrived in positivity which this forum severely lacks.

I think Smeags made it clear that he is posting as member not as head mod. Similarly my thoughts on this are as a member. We are free to raise issues just as anyone else is. I dont think anyone has put "sole blame" on to the nation threads. This thread doesnt seem to be a thread about all things wrong with Vgc.



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