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akuma587 on 14 May 2007

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 I don't have anything against Nintendo, I am just worrying that they are alienating the serious gamers out there.  There is really no excuse to not have your online up and running by now.  Online is an integral part of gaming now, and a system should do more than be good for just a "party" environment.  Some of the single player experiences are top-notch, but Nintendo needs to get it together on their online stuff.



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Bodhesatva on 14 May 2007

As a PC gamer, I've always chuckled at the notion that, say, God of War II and Grand Theft Auto players are more "serious" or hardcore." From my perspective, you're all casual. "Hard core" video gamers, to me, make a living playing video games, or at the very least, play those games 10+ hours a day. I have always felt the bulk of Playstation 2 owners were in some nebulous center area: not children, by any means, but also not serious gamers.

My personal opinion -- Video game consoles, in general, alienate hardcore gamers, not just the Wii. It's not the right venue for it. Personally, I pay 400 dollars a year to make sure my PC gaming rig is up to date and keeps me competitive in the world of professional gaming. THAT is hardcore, and it's something that consoles (and, particularly I think, gamepads instead of mouse/keyboards) have never provided. 



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Poseidon on 14 May 2007
Bodhesatva said:

As a PC gamer, I've always chuckled at the notion that, say, God of War II and Grand Theft Auto players are more "serious" or hardcore." From my perspective, you're all casual. "Hard core" video gamers, to me, make a living playing video games, or at the very least, play those games 10+ hours a day. I have always felt the bulk of Playstation 2 owners were in some nebulous center area: not children, by any means, but also not serious gamers.

My personal opinion -- Video game consoles, in general, alienate hardcore gamers, not just the Wii. It's not the right venue for it. Personally, I pay 400 dollars a year to make sure my PC gaming rig is up to date and keeps me competitive in the world of professional gaming. THAT is hardcore, and it's something that consoles (and, particularly I think, gamepads instead of mouse/keyboards) have never provided. 


All that money just to play RTSs, MMORPGs, and FPSs?



your mother on 14 May 2007
Bodhesatva said:

As a PC gamer, I've always chuckled at the notion that, say, God of War II and Grand Theft Auto players are more "serious" or hardcore." From my perspective, you're all casual. "Hard core" video gamers, to me, make a living playing video games, or at the very least, play those games 10+ hours a day. I have always felt the bulk of Playstation 2 owners were in some nebulous center area: not children, by any means, but also not serious gamers.

My personal opinion -- Video game consoles, in general, alienate hardcore gamers, not just the Wii. It's not the right venue for it. Personally, I pay 400 dollars a year to make sure my PC gaming rig is up to date and keeps me competitive in the world of professional gaming. THAT is hardcore, and it's something that consoles (and, particularly I think, gamepads instead of mouse/keyboards) have never provided.

I can relate. Most people laugh when they hear my explanation of why I bought my new Wintel rig - "the system requirements of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. recommends a Core2Duo..."



BenKenobi88 on 14 May 2007

I don't care. I wouldn't plan on playing MK online anyway. Does anybody still play videogames with their FRIENDS anymore? Seriously. Online's a nice addition, and it allows me to play experienced players or my friends when we're not together, but it's not essential for me. SSBB is nearly essential, only because they've been hinting at it being online forever now.



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Poseidon on 14 May 2007

BenKenobi88 said:
I don't care.

I wouldn't plan on playing MK online anyway.

Does anybody still play videogames with their FRIENDS anymore? Seriously. Online's a nice addition, and it allows me to play experienced players or my friends when we're not together, but it's not essential for me. SSBB is nearly essential, only because they've been hinting at it being online forever now.

It's always nice to have online though.

 



ssj12 on 14 May 2007
Bodhesatva said:

As a PC gamer, I've always chuckled at the notion that, say, God of War II and Grand Theft Auto players are more "serious" or hardcore." From my perspective, you're all casual. "Hard core" video gamers, to me, make a living playing video games, or at the very least, play those games 10+ hours a day. I have always felt the bulk of Playstation 2 owners were in some nebulous center area: not children, by any means, but also not serious gamers.

My personal opinion -- Video game consoles, in general, alienate hardcore gamers, not just the Wii. It's not the right venue for it. Personally, I pay 400 dollars a year to make sure my PC gaming rig is up to date and keeps me competitive in the world of professional gaming. THAT is hardcore, and it's something that consoles (and, particularly I think, gamepads instead of mouse/keyboards) have never provided.


 interesting opinion on what HardCore is but frankly I disagree. 

 

A hardcore gamer is someone who has played games through multiple generations on many different systems. You might say professional gamers are hardcore.. they arent.. half of them never played Pong or PacMan in their lives. There just Professional Gamers. I'm a hardcore gamer. I've played competitively (Former Cal-P UT04 1v1)  and have owned/played every console since the Atari 2600.  



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Bodhesatva on 14 May 2007
Poseidon said:
Bodhesatva said:

As a PC gamer, I've always chuckled at the notion that, say, God of War II and Grand Theft Auto players are more "serious" or hardcore." From my perspective, you're all casual. "Hard core" video gamers, to me, make a living playing video games, or at the very least, play those games 10+ hours a day. I have always felt the bulk of Playstation 2 owners were in some nebulous center area: not children, by any means, but also not serious gamers.

My personal opinion -- Video game consoles, in general, alienate hardcore gamers, not just the Wii. It's not the right venue for it. Personally, I pay 400 dollars a year to make sure my PC gaming rig is up to date and keeps me competitive in the world of professional gaming. THAT is hardcore, and it's something that consoles (and, particularly I think, gamepads instead of mouse/keyboards) have never provided.


All that money just to play RTSs, MMORPGs, and FPSs?


Yep. Thats... well that's hardcore, isn't it? I'm not saying everyone should do it. I'm saying that compared to, say, someone buying an Xbox360, PC Gamers are clearly more dedicated to gaming.



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Bodhesatva on 14 May 2007
ssj12 said:
Bodhesatva said:

As a PC gamer, I've always chuckled at the notion that, say, God of War II and Grand Theft Auto players are more "serious" or hardcore." From my perspective, you're all casual. "Hard core" video gamers, to me, make a living playing video games, or at the very least, play those games 10+ hours a day. I have always felt the bulk of Playstation 2 owners were in some nebulous center area: not children, by any means, but also not serious gamers.

My personal opinion -- Video game consoles, in general, alienate hardcore gamers, not just the Wii. It's not the right venue for it. Personally, I pay 400 dollars a year to make sure my PC gaming rig is up to date and keeps me competitive in the world of professional gaming. THAT is hardcore, and it's something that consoles (and, particularly I think, gamepads instead of mouse/keyboards) have never provided.


interesting opinion on what HardCore is but frankly I disagree.

 

A hardcore gamer is someone who has played games through multiple generations on many different systems. You might say professional gamers are hardcore.. they arent.. half of them never played Pong or PacMan in their lives. There just Professional Gamers. I'm a hardcore gamer. I've played competitively (Former Cal-P UT04 1v1) and have owned/played every console since the Atari 2600.


 That's fine. You can certainly have your opinion of the definition, and I can have mine. 



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Poseidon on 15 May 2007
Bodhesatva said:
ssj12 said:
Bodhesatva said:

As a PC gamer, I've always chuckled at the notion that, say, God of War II and Grand Theft Auto players are more "serious" or hardcore." From my perspective, you're all casual. "Hard core" video gamers, to me, make a living playing video games, or at the very least, play those games 10+ hours a day. I have always felt the bulk of Playstation 2 owners were in some nebulous center area: not children, by any means, but also not serious gamers.

My personal opinion -- Video game consoles, in general, alienate hardcore gamers, not just the Wii. It's not the right venue for it. Personally, I pay 400 dollars a year to make sure my PC gaming rig is up to date and keeps me competitive in the world of professional gaming. THAT is hardcore, and it's something that consoles (and, particularly I think, gamepads instead of mouse/keyboards) have never provided.


interesting opinion on what HardCore is but frankly I disagree.

 

A hardcore gamer is someone who has played games through multiple generations on many different systems. You might say professional gamers are hardcore.. they arent.. half of them never played Pong or PacMan in their lives. There just Professional Gamers. I'm a hardcore gamer. I've played competitively (Former Cal-P UT04 1v1) and have owned/played every console since the Atari 2600.


 That's fine. You can certainly have your opinion of the definition, and I can have mine. 

I'm going to have to agree with ssj12. Your definition is more of a "Hardcore PC Gamer." If you feel like spending $400 annually, all the power to you man. This is one reason why people in a way flock to consoles because developers have to manipulate the hardware that is presented to them, whereas, let's be honest some people that make PC games are waiting for that new graphics card. Crysis is making a few people rip their hair out.

PCs just lack traditional RPGs, action/adventure games (And when they do, it's crappy), platformers, and party games.