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Forums - Sales Discussion - January 2015 NPD Thread! Hardware estimates up!

Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
in summary:
PS4 decrease is not major; price hasn't dropped; it's disappointing and bad for the industry, but We haven't seen price cut effect yet considering how "important" November and December was ;)
XB1 increase is insufficient, after $100-150 price cut it only managed 8k more sales, there is no momentum there.

Comparing to sales directly aftera system launch is ridiculous lol.



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kowenicki said:

Becasue its the market leader that people cant get enough of and is set to dominate?

We aren't doom mongers, we are realists who are capable of seeing the numbers for what they are.

 

oh pls Kowen this is getting old. We both know u have a bias, so why insist on constantly hiding behind facts and moving the posts all the time. Which other console in history at $400 has sold as much as the ps4 in the same time frame? Is it not a fact that unlike all its predecessors and even most of the competition the PS4 is yet to see a price cut? 

Then you claim you see the numbers for what they are, what exactly is that if you don't mind me asking? 

I'll say again, look at last year, after the initial launch boost, during non major game release months; what was the PS4s baseline at $400? This is a very very simple question. Common sense would suggest that at the same price the PS4 will just go right back to selling at whatever baseline it had last year, which is exactly what it's doing. This is coming sense.

it's also common sense  that at a lower  price the XB1s base line will be higher, which is also what it's doing. 

so what numbers are you looking at, and how do you fail to see this obvious fact? yet you say you aren't doom mongering. 



teigaga said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
in summary:
PS4 decrease is not major; price hasn't dropped; it's disappointing and bad for the industry, but We haven't seen price cut effect yet considering how "important" November and December was ;)
XB1 increase is insufficient, after $100-150 price cut it only managed 8k more sales, there is no momentum there.

Comparing to sales directly aftera system launch is ridiculous lol.

Inorite. Not sure why you bolded just that though.



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MikeRox said:

TheSting said:
I agree Celador. I'm not cool with these overdone remakes and shitty indie games

 

MikeRox(despite being better than anything the big boys are putting out in terms of quality (gameplay), indie games just don't move next gen hardware the same especially as they are still on previous generation systems.)


Fixed that nonsense for you. With complete nonsense of my own. 


Refixed



TheSting said:
MikeRox said:


Let's be nice to eachother.  Hug?

 

Ok. *hugs*

Fixed 



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
in summary:
PS4 decrease is not major; price hasn't dropped; it's disappointing and bad for the industry, but We haven't seen price cut effect yet considering how "important" November and December was ;)
XB1 increase is insufficient, after $100-150 price cut it only managed 8k more sales, there is no momentum there.


February,  March,  April will be very interesting.  Ps4 going to get a nice boost even if it remains at launch price but you'd have to wonder about xbox compared to last year. 



TheSting said:
MikeRox said:


Fixed that nonsense for you. With complete nonsense of my own. 


Refixed


Touche!



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CGI-Quality said:
Teeqoz said:
PS4 is horrible, but somewhat expected.
XBO is up at least, that's good news (imagine if it had been down!) And good for the Wii U!

As others have pointed out, how is the PS4, "horrible"? It gone back to what it was doing before, because it is the exact same price as it was on November 15, 2013. This thinking just makes no sense, to me.

Confirmation Bias.



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Lightbeyondnemesis said:
kowenicki said:


it is up from last year...


X1 is up 10 K and it is 150 cheaper, that's terrible.

 

 

Your posts in this thread are horrid.....These consoles sold way more then there predecessors, thus reached market saturation faster, of course ps4 would be down it is still 399 and is near 20 million sold......By this time ps3 had price cuts and so did 360, thus up more. All yuo doom mongers dont have a clue, ps4 would be way up had it seen a price drop. So many misinformed posters on this sit.e

 

You want to spread doom because your precious x1 is struggling....PS4 will outsell ps3 easy.

 

I also get a kick out of how US = world mentality. Other countries are growing for the console market, PS4 is selling way more in Middle east, europe. consoels are far from doomed, at least ps4 isnt.

This. I don't know about xbox one but ps4 is fine.  It's way ahead of ps3 by jan. 2008 and like you said, ps4 is selling everywhere unlike xbox that relies too much on US numbers but you know the drill.

 



Angelv577 said:
Lightbeyondnemesis said:
kowenicki said:


it is up from last year...


X1 is up 10 K and it is 150 cheaper, that's terrible.

 

 

Your posts in this thread are horrid.....These consoles sold way more then there predecessors, thus reached market saturation faster, of course ps4 would be down it is still 399 and is near 20 million sold......By this time ps3 had price cuts and so did 360, thus up more. All yuo doom mongers dont have a clue, ps4 would be way up had it seen a price drop. So many misinformed posters on this sit.e

 

You want to spread doom because your precious x1 is struggling....PS4 will outsell ps3 easy.

 

I also get a kick out of how US = world mentality. Other countries are growing for the console market, PS4 is selling way more in Middle east, europe. consoels are far from doomed, at least ps4 isnt.

This. I don't know about xbox one but ps4 is fine.  It's way ahead of ps3 by jan. 2008 and like you said, ps4 is selling everywhere unlike xbox that relies too much on US numbers but you know the drill.

 

Here's the pseudocode:

function description(console ,int a<2014 January>, int b<2015 January>){ string des if a > b{ string des = bad while 1{ des = synonym(des) if des > exaggeration(rand()){ continue } break } } else des = synonym(good) des = downplay(des) #needed to seem modest } return des }



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